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Old November 9th, 2013, 01:29 AM   #221
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Are there any plans to expand the suburban train? I remember reading once about a plan to extend it to Polanco as well as Naucalpan, but I have no idea if it got beyond just a fantasy.
Yes, there are official plans, the extension you mention is a branch line for System (Line) 2, New trunk lines 2 and 3 and the first extension of line 1 are on hold currently, since there hasn't been too much interest from private partnerships and government, generally speaking.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 01:57 PM   #224
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I made a new schematic map of Mexico subway network.

All lines are represented, metro and metrobus. I tried to make it as symmetrical and harmonious as possible but still small enough to be printed on 20cmx20cm



You can see it in better resolution on

www.inat.fr/metro/mexico/
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Old June 10th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #225
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Report due on Mexico City Line 12 closure
Tuesday, June 10, 2014



A REPORT into technical defects which have led to the partial closure of Mexico City metro Line 12 is due to be published within the next few weeks.

The 25.1km line opened in October 2012, but a section of the route has been closed since March, when six metro cars were taken out of service after the vehicles were found to be causing serious damage to track.

TSO, France, has been analysing the problem since April, and Systra will use the data gathered by TSO to assess the necessary remedial works.

Responsibility for the problem has been denied by both rolling stock supplier CAF and the construction consortium, which includes ICA, Carso Infraestructura y Construcción, and Alstom. While arguments continue as to who is to blame, the government has said it will initially cover the cost of any remedial work pending a final decision over which party is liable.

Preliminary findings have prompted five recommendations, including a review of the application of lubrication to trains and fixed systems, the replacement of needle switches, and gauge adjustments on curved track
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Old June 10th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #226
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I had been to Mexico City several times recently and I think the metro system is very easy to understand and to use (although there are no ticket machines and you have to buy the tickets at ticket booths it is still easy no matter you don't speak Spanish)

What I really like is that every station has an unique pictogram - therefore you don't need to be able to read!!!

I used the 7 and the 2 and I have the impression that the stations are very 60s - it is a kind of "back to the past"
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Old June 11th, 2014, 06:55 AM   #227
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The pictograms are a legacy of an unfortunate time in Mexican history.

Thankfully the literacy rate has increased to first-world standards.
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Old June 11th, 2014, 07:02 AM   #228
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I made a new schematic map of Mexico subway network.

All lines are represented, metro and metrobus. I tried to make it as symmetrical and harmonious as possible but still small enough to be printed on 20cmx20cm


You can see it in better resolution on

www.inat.fr/metro/mexico/
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Old June 12th, 2014, 05:32 AM   #229
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Problems in Line 12 apparently arised even before the line was open to the public. We will be paying attention to what the final veredict says about the engineering studies, which have put half of the line on hold to start a re-engineering remedial. Presumably, the short story tells that, the rolling stock from CAF, which may be suited more for a commuter or a regional line, found physical conflict with the rail and structural project from ICA (builder of all other metro lines) CARSO and ALSTOM, which led to geometrical and structural failures on rail individual pieces, mostly on curved sections.

As early as the day half of the line closed, City Government activated an emergency bus service along the route, with free rides from Tlahuac or Periferico Oriente to Atlalilco or some other major metro station nearby. Chaos is ensured everyday since, specially on Tlahuac avenue. This is the temporary service scheme:


It is even unknown at this time, a date when government can announce an official reopening of that half of the line. =(

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On other notes, City government has also announced recently official plans for lines 9 and 12.

They will meet up at Observatorio, current Line 1 terminal, and that is because that station is planned to be a major hub (kind of a west gate to the city) since it will be also terminal to the Inter-city Rail that Federal Goverment is planning. The first re-activated passenger rail service in the city, since the 80's, will reach Toluca, Mexico State capital and nearest Metropolitan Area that is not infused still within proper Mexico City urban area.

It's worthy to mention that expansion of Line 9 has been on the project since 1986. Nearly 30 years later, it gets the green light. Line 12 in an early stage was planned to be expanded more in a total-western-direction fashion, instead of meeting Observatorio terminal at the north-west of the current terminal (Mixcoac).

Lines 4 and A have also been said recently to be planned for extension in the near future. Line 4 from Martin Carrera to somewhere in the north near Santa Clara in the municipality of Ecatepec, and Line A nearby Chalco, where the terminal station of the apparently-now-defunct Commuter Rail Line 3 was to be located.

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DF Metro Line 12 to be expanded.


Thursday, 14 Feb, 2013 15:23
A budget of USD $70 million will be used for the work, which will start next year.

MÉXICO, D.F.- Mexico City Major, Miguel Angel Mancera Espinosa exposed that the works to expand STC Line 12 will start ext year.

Soon after the ceremony where a Line 12 train was given the name of a famous railroad leader, Valentin Campa Salazar, Mancera Espinosa stated that two more stations are planned, but they will analyze to build even more, according to Notimex

At the event held at Line 12 Ermita station, he pointed that in an early stage, a provision of
USD $70 million should be separated to meet the expenses of the executive project and the corresponding studies, an issue that would be carried out this year.

He said that, currently, Line 12 have 26 stations and the goal is to reach to 30, and with that, transit times would improve the operation of the service.

Also said that the next station to build on this line will be caled "Valentin Campa" and said
he will continue to name new trains as some celebrities of the city, as the first become
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DF Metro Line 9 to be expanded.

February, 2014
With the expansion of the Metro Line 12 only in the initial stage, the GDF is looking to the
the same with Line 9 by extending the western terminus from Tacubaya to Observatorio. At least, that was the instruction that the city major, Miguel Angel Mancera, gave to the STC-Metro manager yesterday.

"I leave that task to the engineer Joel Ortega for it to be worked out already, so that we may see the issue from a technical point of view," Mancera said during the release of the fourth rehabilitated train that the STC joined to the network.

"If we succeed in this connection," he added, "we will achieve what has come up in the schemes of seamless mobility, because we will be conected to Line 12, and Observatorio will be a major transfer center connecting to Line 9". And that is because, Observatorio, is planned arrival terminal of Line 12, which currently stands at Mixcoac, and also terminal to the Mexico-Toluca Inter-city Rail that is projected by the Federal Government.

Observatorio is the terminus of Line 1, the second busiest in the Metro, while Line 9 is the sixth in terms of demand, according to the agency.

To Observatorio, an average 80,000 arrive every day.

Mancera said he will seek the Secretary of Transports and Communications since the issue must be raised in the Economic Cabinet and Federation Transport.

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Old June 22nd, 2014, 06:46 AM   #230
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Should at least one line of the Mexico City Metro be extended to the Santa Fe business district, since it (the district) currently has no metro/train services?
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Old June 25th, 2014, 02:40 AM   #231
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That is the most obvious extension that should be done, it would help tie in Santa Fe business district with the rest of the city. But there appear to be no plans for that, despite talks of expanding lines 12 & 9 westward, they will stop short of reaching Santa Fe. My guess as to why this is not happening is because residents of that area are fearful that a metro expansion would bring in undesirables. This happened in Los Angeles with the purple line/wilshire subway, which is why it stops short of reaching Beverly Hills and the west side.

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Construction of the Toluca-México Inter-urban Rail just started yesterday. It will be the first massive transport to reach Santa Fe. Also, tickets from Observatorio to Santa Fe will cost approximately only 15% of the full Toluca-Observatorio fare.

Line will have six 200-meter-long stations, including the two terminals. With most of the railway built in other infrastructures' right-of-way, like highways and power lines. Length is calculated in 37.7 km of new railway. Portions of the project also include an expansion (in lanes) of the current Toluca-México toll highway.

Excpected demand is 270,000 pax/day and 39 minutes travel time on the Observatorio-Zinacantepec route at 160 km/h.

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Any idea what kind of rolling stock will be used?
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Interesting how a business traveler could use the Airport in Toluca and this line to reach the business districts on the west side of the city. How long does it take to get from Juarez Intl to Polanco or Santa Fe by metro or subway?
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Even if this means there will never be any actual metro connections to the Santa Fe business district, will a station at the Mexico City-Toluca rail line be enough for Santa Fe?
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Construction of the Toluca-México Inter-urban Rail just started yesterday. It will be the first massive transport to reach Santa Fe. Also, tickets from Observatorio to Santa Fe will cost approximately only 15% of the full Toluca-Observatorio price.

Line will have six 200-meter-long stations, including the two terminals. With most of the railway built in other infrastructures' right-of-way, like highways and power lines. Length is calculated in 37.7 km of new railway. Portions of the project also include an expansion (in lanes) of the current Toluca-México toll highway.

Excpected demand is 270,000 pax/day and 39 minutes travel time on the Observatorio-Zinacantepec route at 160 km/h.

Map:

video (in spanish):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyfWKhmn8ro
This is fantastic news but hopefully this isn't the only mass transit to reach Santa Fe. People shouldn't have to transfer to another system and pay another fee just to ride one station. Extending the metro one station west to Santa Fe is such a no-brainer, why city officials have not thought of this is beyond me. Incredibly shortsighted. As a tourist, it was a pain trying to reach Santa Fe, it's almost as if they don't want people to go there.
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The distance from the Observatorio metro station to the Santa Fe business district would be around 8 kilometers (5 miles).

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Interesting how a business traveler could use the Airport in Toluca and this line to reach the business districts on the west side of the city. How long does it take to get from Juarez Intl to Polanco or Santa Fe by metro or subway?
I can't really tell you how long it takes, per se, but I imagine that a business traveler would go approximately 20 kilometers (12.4 miles) from the Benito Juarez Airport to Polanco via the metro.
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Any idea what kind of rolling stock will be used?
No, at this moment.

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Interesting how a business traveler could use the Airport in Toluca and this line to reach the business districts on the west side of the city. How long does it take to get from Juarez Intl to Polanco or Santa Fe by metro or subway?
That is actually a very common business pattern, Toluca airport is the "business little brother" of Mexico City's Juarez, some airlines perform airport check-in at a little office in Santa Fe and then passengers take a shuttle to Toluca's Lopez Mateos airport. Many people that work at Santa Fe actually live in the Toluca suburb of Metepec which is traffic-wise nearer than proper Mexico City . Maximum time in car may be 1 hour or so between Metepec and Santa Fe in rush hours, which is actually faster than many metropolitan journeys in Mexico City greater area.

Juarez Airport - Polanco trip may take you 40-55 minutes by subway.
Juarez Airport - Santa Fe by subway, and then the fastest bus route, 1 to 1.5 hours.

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This is fantastic news but hopefully this isn't the only mass transit to reach Santa Fe. People shouldn't have to transfer to another system and pay another fee just to ride one station. Extending the metro one station west to Santa Fe is such a no-brainer, why city officials have not thought of this is beyond me. Incredibly shortsighted. As a tourist, it was a pain trying to reach Santa Fe, it's almost as if they don't want people to go there.
City planners (do we have them? ) had suggested about a new subway line to Santa Fe in the past, but eventually this project appeared and made a kind of saving to the GDF (Mexico City Government), since this rail line is funded by the federal government (SCT). So maybe city governors just said, like: OK! Go on! . I also hope that one day, we'll have a proper rapid transit line to Santa Fe, serving also neighbourhoods in the mid-route, which are not few.
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this line will be very importante for mexico city....
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Mexico City recently unveiled plans to develop a brand-new airport on part of the mostly-dry Lake Texcoco to replace their existing one. Will there be any expansion of the Mexico City Metro to support the new airport, (by way of an existing line or a completely new line)? Or will such an expansion be virtually impossible? If such an expansion is realized, it could become part of a potential "eighth stage" for the Mexico City Metro (after the seven that have been completed so far), along with a potential extension of at least one line to the Santa Fe district that I already mentioned in this thread.
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