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Old February 5th, 2007, 03:18 PM   #21
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Wow, only 8 degrees in Mexico City, I had no idea it got that cold there! I always imagined it being quite warm. I expect the alltitude of the city would play a part in the temperature though...
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Old February 5th, 2007, 09:11 PM   #22
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Great pictures. Do you have any Mexico City trolley-bus?
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Old February 5th, 2007, 09:30 PM   #23
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Wow, only 8 degrees in Mexico City, I had no idea it got that cold there! I always imagined it being quite warm. I expect the alltitude of the city would play a part in the temperature though...
In fact the climate in the city is fresh not warm. The average temps are 07ºC to 21ºC. A few days in the summer it can get up to 32ºC and during the winter it can low up to -6ºC.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 09:56 PM   #24
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Great pictures. Do you have any Mexico City trolley-bus?
For sure. I have only these pics. Trolley-buses in Mexico City don't belong to the MetroBús BRT System.

The trolley-buses lines run over 453.85km.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #25
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For sure. I have only these pics. Trolley-buses in Mexico City don't belong to the MetroBús BRT System.

The trolley-buses lines run over 453.85km.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 10:35 PM   #26
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La encontré en internet. Pero pues si me suena por esos rumbos. O quizá por los rumbos de Taxqueña.
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Old February 7th, 2007, 04:07 AM   #27
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More pics...

Detail of the station


Detail of the bus


Detail of the RFID cards sensors
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Old February 8th, 2007, 03:40 AM   #28
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And what do you mean that you can only board it through a station, how else can you board a bus? Waving your hand?
The city microbuses act like cabs. They follow a route, but you wave it down on any street corner to pick you up, and ask the driver to stop when you want to get off.
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Old February 8th, 2007, 08:32 AM   #29
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Indeed...
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Old February 9th, 2007, 07:16 AM   #30
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Mexico City used to have a bus system but it completely collapsed due to competition with smaller private colectivo microbuses. How is this new BRT doing vs the colectivos? And doesn't that line overlap with Metro Line 3?
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Old February 9th, 2007, 07:28 AM   #31
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It doesn't overlap the Line 3 since only 6 stations of the 21 of this line are in Insurgentes Ave. 4 At the top north and too at the south.

The old microbuses that used to run over Insurgentes Ave. don't do it anymore. MetroBús and taxis are the only public transportation service that are allowed to run over this avenue.

The MetroBús system is actually owned by the government and by the former owners of those microbuses.
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Old February 9th, 2007, 04:37 PM   #32
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Did you have a problem with fare-evaders when the system began? If yes, what steps did you take to overcome the problem? And how long before it became insignificant?

Would a BRT system work in a city with 0.5 million or less inhabitants?
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Old February 9th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #33
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We never had an issue with fare-evaders since there's a policeman in every station verifying everyone enters correctly during the whole operation day. And the bus driver can not pick people up during the way but in the stations.

I think this system is great for small and medium cities. But, this is not a definite system for bigger ones. It is useful in big cities only when it works as a complement to other transportation systems as subway and light rail.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 10:14 AM   #34
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Thanks. I've followed the BRT concept for awhile starting with the successes at Curitiba and Bogota (correct me if I'm wrong). It's interesting that Mexico City chose to implement it after already having a subway system. I think it would be ideal for a number of the smaller cities we have in Malaysia. Right now we have too much focus on LRTs and monorails.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 10:37 AM   #35
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You're right.

Mexico City choosed the BRT because is a fast way to replace normal buses or microbuses with a much more ordered system. And complementing the subway, trolleybuses and the light rail.

Since the government is co-owning this BRT with the former particular buses and microbuses owners, this is a much less expensive option for the particulars to invest. So, it's more or less easier to convince them to stop working their buses (some of them owned just one bus) and join as investors in the MetroBus BRT.
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Old February 10th, 2007, 11:04 AM   #36
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A more orderly public transport system is what we sorely need in our smaller cities. Too often these urban areas get pass over because their size cannot justify an investment in LRTs or monorails.

I like the idea of co-ownership. It reduces economic displacement and is good constituency-building with the stakeholders of the system. Any idea how much it cost Mexico City to implement the system per kilometre of route?
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Old February 10th, 2007, 11:11 AM   #37
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I have not this data but I promise I'm going to look for it...
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Old February 12th, 2007, 12:55 AM   #38
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I have now the answer: 5.2 million dollars per kilometer. It's just the 10% of what a subway would cost.
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Old February 13th, 2007, 04:12 PM   #39
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Thanks. The information is much appreciated.
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Old May 15th, 2007, 10:02 AM   #40
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