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Old May 19th, 2007, 04:10 PM   #21
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what about Shanghai in general? There are 3000 scrapers in the city, as far as I know ? ? ?
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Old May 19th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #22
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Sao Paolo is monstrous. Not home to tall buildings, but easily the most high rises. I would imagine that Tokyo is similar.
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Old May 20th, 2007, 03:18 AM   #23
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ah the age old debate. Until we have a reputable and complete, accurate database let's be honest, we'll probably never know if it's Tokyo New York Sao Paulo Seoul Shanghai or Hong Kong. One day though ^_^
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:09 AM   #24
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so are we talking about skyscrapers or high rises??

i believe Dubai will have the most SKYSCRAPERS in the future
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so are we talking about skyscrapers or high rises??

i believe Dubai will have the most SKYSCRAPERS in the future
That's yet to be seen. Dubai doesn't even have the quantity that HK has right now.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:33 AM   #26
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Sao Paolo is monstrous. Not home to tall buildings, but easily the most high rises. I would imagine that Tokyo is similar.
Tokyo has a lot of low and mid-rises and it'll take a lot of construction for even Hong Kong to overtake Sao Paulo.

In the absence of accurate data, it's very hard to judge which city has the most skyscrapers.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:37 AM   #27
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Tokyo has a lot of low and mid-rises and it'll take a lot of construction for even Hong Kong to overtake Sao Paulo.

In the absence of accurate data, it's very hard to judge which city has the most skyscrapers.
Sampa has more land and population than HK. And to house the city's massive population they have to build up.

The only difference is, Sampa's skyscrapers lack the height that HK has.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 07:45 AM   #28
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From skyscraperpage...

1 - NYC 3061 highrises
2 - Toronto 1720 highrises
3 - Chicago 1061 highrises
SSP is 90% edited by people from US.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 08:23 AM   #29
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Sampa has more land and population than HK. And to house the city's massive population they have to build up.

The only difference is, Sampa's skyscrapers lack the height that HK has.
Height in itself is irrelevant once it reaches the 'definition' of the skyscraper. We're not measuring GFA, so an 80-storey skyscraper in one city will be counted as 1 just as a 14-storey skyscraper in another city. It'll have a visual effect obviously, but in terms of numbers, there is no difference.

However, GFA figures are very hard to come by outside the commercial market.
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Everyone who has the slightest interest in tall buildings should know that Emporis and Skyscraperpage statistics are useless - since Chinese (and Brazilian) numbers aren't accurate.

I say lock the thread.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 10:44 PM   #31
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i believe Dubai will have the most SKYSCRAPERS in the future
that's still a long way for Dubai to go.
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Old May 22nd, 2007, 11:01 PM   #32
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With highrises, São Paulo beats NYC easily - if you'd ever been to either city, you'd see that it's not even close. You can't make an accurate judgment from just looking at photos. With skyscrapers, it depends on how you define them. If you say 200 m, then São Paulo nets exactly zero.

Hong Kong - never been there, so can't make a comparison.



Not that I'm aware of, though some neighborhoods may have restrictions.
Yes, there is some regulations because the city has 3 airports inside the urban area..
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:19 AM   #33
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That's yet to be seen. Dubai doesn't even have the quantity that HK has right now.
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that's still a long way for Dubai to go.
well, i meant skyscrapers (over 300m) not high rises.

Dubai does have lots of 300m+ buildings u/c than any other cities right now. or is that still too little??
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:39 AM   #34
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40 thousand highrises (buildings over 12 floors) in São Paulo
40,000 buildings over 12 stories? I know they have a lot of hi-rises in SP, but 40k???
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well, i meant skyscrapers (over 300m) not high rises.

Dubai does have lots of 300m+ buildings u/c than any other cities right now. or is that still too little??
True that Dubai are building alot of scrapers of this height. But it's the same thing in other cities especially Chinese cities.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 08:30 AM   #36
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It's a mistake to take rankings as carved in stone. Emporis and other sources may have missing data (the extent of which I am not aware), but they are useful guides nonetheless.

#1 or #2 doesn't really matter. What you take away from it is a rough guide as to where the large concentration of high rises are. Visual observation of many of the top 20 cities would seem to back up Emporis' rankings. Some of the numbers might be off, but the general ranking would not change drastically.
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Nobody should draw a conclusion based on best efforts data gathering. Emporis is a great site, but getting accurate and up-to-date data from around the world is a very difficult task.
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I don't trust skyscraperpage at all, I believe Sao Paulo would win.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 01:51 PM   #39
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Nobody should draw a conclusion based on best efforts data gathering. Emporis is a great site, but getting accurate and up-to-date data from around the world is a very difficult task.
It is very difficult but Emporis has representatives from many different parts of the globe some of them are here in SSC. With the quantity of skyscrapers in every city it can be difficult. But Emporis still has a near perfect data
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 05:51 PM   #40
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But Emporis still has a near perfect data
No it doesn't. I am a (new) editor there and there are many countries lacking a lot of data. Europe and N. America have very good data because there are a lot of editors in those areas. Perfect, no, but there are many cities for which the data is 100% complete (such as Chicago and London). In Brazil, the data is very incomplete (less than 50% and in some cities less than 20%), and in China it is even worse. The biggest problem is lack of editors in these countries, especially in China where so many buildings are going up right now.
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