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Old October 14th, 2011, 06:12 PM   #541
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Ok, whatever, this dispute can last forever...

When is Corridor 10 through Macedonia gonna be completed?
It's expected to be completed till 2015.
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Old October 14th, 2011, 06:24 PM   #542
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So only 25km are missing from Corridor 10.
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Old October 14th, 2011, 06:33 PM   #543
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Is there any talk of a motorway towards Bitolj, Macedonia's second largest city?
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Old October 14th, 2011, 06:53 PM   #544
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Is there any talk of a motorway towards Bitolj, Macedonia's second largest city?
Such a motorway is planned, but it is not a priority. The current road via Prilep is more than enough for the amount of traffic it has, although it could really use better signage, like every other piece of road in Macedonia.
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Old October 14th, 2011, 08:54 PM   #545
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It's expected to be completed till 2015.
Ok, thanks.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 09:17 PM   #546
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Video of a new road leading up to Macedonia's newest ski resort of Kozuf, currently being developed near Gevgelija, close to the border with Greece:



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Old November 5th, 2011, 05:12 AM   #547
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Beautiful road!
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Old November 16th, 2011, 03:03 AM   #548
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Macedonia Plans To Tap EBRD Loan for Electronic Road Tolling Project

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15.11.2011 16:12:00 | Author/Source www.seenews.com

SKOPJE (Macedonia), November 15 (SeeNews) – The Macedonian Agency for State Roads plans to use the proceeds from a European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) loan for the upgrade and installation of electronic tolling systems along the country's section of pan-European Corridor X, the international lender said on Tuesday.

The two-stage project has a total estimated cost of 17 million euro ($23.2 million), the EBRD said in a general procurement notice.
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Macedonia To Spend 7.5 Bln Denars (122 Mln Euro) on Road/Railway Infrastructure in 2012

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SKOPJE (Macedonia), November 15 (SeeNews) – Macedonia will allocate 7.5 billion denars ($167 million/122 million euro) in public funds for road and railway infrastructure projects next year, up 42% from 2011, the finance ministry said.

Details on the projects were not provided in a statement posted on the ministry’s website on Monday.
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Old November 16th, 2011, 10:45 PM   #549
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Macedonia in search of a new concession model

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After the failure with the motorway concession within the Corridor 8, the Macedonian government is looking for a new model. Some roads will be given into concession again, while others will be reconstructed with state means.

Several new models have been discussed and alternative solutions are being considered. The roads that will be financed by the state budget will enter the Macedonia Road Agency programme, explained deputy PM in charge of economic affairs Vladimir Pesevski. Moreover, the Economic Council discussed the improvement of agriculture through construction of some ten new dams.
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Old November 17th, 2011, 09:19 PM   #550
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Yugoslavia ???? When is this map from ???
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Old November 18th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #551
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Yugoslavia ???? When is this map from ???
It seems to be some kind of an old future plan. The forth broder crossing point to greece on the left on Lake Prespa wasn't opend until now and I don't know of any greece plans for that... In Macedonia everything is ready afaik.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #552
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Any news here?
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:45 PM   #553
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Yugoslavia ???? When is this map from ???
Well it could be from 1991-2003, no one knows...
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Old November 29th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #554
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Well it could be from 1991-2003, no one knows...
City Veles is shown in this map as Titov Veles. Veles removed name of Tito from the city name in 1996.

Motorway from Skopje - Tetovo in this map is shown as an existing motorway. This motorway was completed in 2004.

Skopje bypass in this map is shown as U/C. This motorway was introduced in 2008.

As a conclusion, map used as a platform for roads of Macedonia is older then 1996 (when Veles changed its name), while the roads are put in the map sometime between 2004 (when is completed SK-TE motorway) and 2008 (when Skopje bypass was completed).
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Old November 29th, 2011, 04:57 PM   #555
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Some latest news....

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Macedonia quits its plans to completely carry out Corridor No 8 project through a concession after not a single investor appeared in the latest tender, Deutsche Welle reported in its program in Macedonian.

According to the country’s Deputy Prime Minister in charge of economic affairs Vladimir Pesevski the government is preparing a new strategy. He thinks the tender was unsuccessful due to the low traffic and lack of economic profitability. The government’s new plan, according to Pesevski, will be revealed in about a month. It envisages offering the motorway between Kicevo and Gostivar and between Skopje and Blace for a concession.

The road from Ohrid to Kicevo will be a motorway built with public funds, while the road in Eastern Macedonia leading to the border with Bulgaria has to be repaired and widened by one more lane.

The highest amount of money will be invested in the road section between Rankovce and Kriva Palanka and some changes might be made there. However, the road will not be a motorway, because it is not economically profitable due to the low traffic. According to Pesevski the state-funded corridor stretch is worth about EUR 500 million.

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Old November 29th, 2011, 06:30 PM   #556
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Profitable or not we need it. I hate travelling to Bulgaria because of the many curves on the road. They have to build a motorway.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 06:48 PM   #557
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However, the road will not be a motorway, because it is not economically profitable due to the low traffic.
If there isn't a high amount of traffic today, it doesn't mean that there won't be tomorrow.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #558
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Traffic volumes on that corridor are hardly over 2 000 vehicles per day. A motorway for such volumes is not profitable. It needs to be at least some 10 000 - 15 000 vehicles per day.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #559
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It’s not all about AADT.


That’s why Montenegro is giving priority to motorway towards Serbia against Adriatic-Ionian motorway, even though AADT would be higher in AI motorway,


Also, motorway in Albania towards Kosovo was build when the AADT in the previous highway was barely few hundred vehicles. Now this motorway has many times higher AADT. But, still, AADT is well beyond 10.000. But Albania did a smart job with this motorway. It was said that, because of this motorway, Albania is earning 300 million Euros more from tourism annually. And that is not the only benefit of Albanian Economy from this motorway.


My point is that AADT may dramatically increase after the motorway construction.


And, it is not all about AADT. Many other benefits can be achieved with motorway building.


Perhaps, because there is no Kriva Palanka motorway, some Macedonian farmer can not export his tomatoes in Sofia market.

Or, if the motorway was completed from Skopje to Bulgarian border and further to Sofia and Burgas or Varna, many tourists from Macedonia, and even Kosovo would spend summer/winter holidays in Bulgaria, and spend much more money in Bulgaria then they do now.


Of course, there are many other examples that I could number here, but my point was that the economies of Macedonia and Bulgaria would benefit a lot with construction of Kriva Palanka motorway.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 09:03 PM   #560
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I prefer realism. Motorways don't create magically tens of thousands of vehicles per day. Sure, traffic may increase somewhat, but not of a magnitude a motorway suddenly becomes feasible. M2 is not a major transportation route, and probably won't be in the next 20 years. The western part is already a fairly high-standard route. It's more cost-effective to upgrade the eastern part and realign it, while focusing motorway funding on western Macedonia and a motorway to Prilep and Bitola.
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