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Old February 15th, 2016, 09:35 PM   #1601
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Of course Serbian citizens can go to their own territory with IDs.
This is debatable.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 12:45 AM   #1602
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Its a bit tricky though. Nobody knows when it enters into force exactly. I remember it took 40 calendar days from the date of agreement when macedonia and Serbia signed it together. Maybe they will push it now until elections in Spring. It wouldnt surprise me if they excused by the difficulity of getting the card readers to work or buying them. Lol.
Also some things are important to be mentioned.
First of all this will include only 30 days in 180 stay and not 90 in 180 as the Schengen rule which is adopted by all Western Balkan states.

Second if you for an example start from Skopje with MKD ID and your destination is Hungary via Serbia you cannot enter Serbia with ID, since you broke the rule you don't stay in Serbia you proceed to country where passport is needed and you cannot exit Serbia (no matter if you have the passport with you) and this is a rule for all countries in the West Balkan. But If I go to Montenegro via Kosovo or Albania I can go with ID all the way.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 09:47 AM   #1603
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Where do you have that source of 30 days duration stay? Do you have any idea about the implementation date ? Thanks
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Old February 21st, 2016, 10:30 PM   #1604
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Yes that's only between the Western Balkan states that are not part of the union. But If a Bulgarian or Romanian citizen or any other EU citizen enters Macedonia it can stay up to 90 days in 180 days period with an ID only. So it will include check in at a hotel or if staying in a private accommodation in a police with the Bulgarian ID.
I don't know about the implementation date but once it is established I will visit Kosovo with a MKD ID.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 12:59 AM   #1605
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I was more interested to know why Mk and Bih does not have such a bilateral agreement. I wonder why. I dont see any conflicts between the countries but maybe its because Mk recognized Ks in 2008-2009 and the serb republic in bih refrained.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 10:46 PM   #1606
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No it has nothing to do with that. Kosovo did not changed the visa policy with Serbia so we have bilateral with them also. It's not sign because there is no communication between these two countries. I also guess the thing is that the process is bilateral and there was no initiative from either side. But it could be done, also it could be done with Moldova, Georgia or even Ukraine since these countries do have the association agreement signed, but not with any other European countries.
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Old March 3rd, 2016, 09:33 PM   #1607
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Interesting, I have entered Macedonia with my ID last week, no need for passport. Btw it does not contain fingerprint, so it's not biometric. But the new ID cards in Bulgaria from this year or next year you will have to enter biometric data. Many people from border regions in Bulgaria go to Macedonia - Strumica, Kriva Palanka and last week I saw many macedonians returning from Bansko, I see many of them in Sandanski. In Dimitrovgrad, Serbia you can see almost 80% of the cars are with BG numbers. Serbians also can travel to EU with ID I think. In hotels in Bulgaria we implement registration with such card and passport reader.
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Old March 4th, 2016, 11:00 AM   #1608
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Once Serbia is a member of EU, citizens of SRB can travel with ID cards in EU. Not at the moment. Interesting that you could enter with a non-biometric ID card. I wonder how they registered your entry without a readable document.
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Old March 5th, 2016, 12:40 AM   #1609
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Once Serbia is a member of EU, citizens of SRB can travel with ID cards in EU. Not at the moment. Interesting that you could enter with a non-biometric ID card. I wonder how they registered your entry without a readable document.
As I understand it, there's no need for EU citizens to have biometric ID cards to enter countries like Serbia because not all EU countries have biometric ID cards to begin with. The Italians are somewhat infamous for their little ID booklets, and many others (such as the new Polish ID card) aren't biometric.

But how they registered the stay - it's pretty simple. They still have machine-readable areas, and on most Balkan border crossings, they have the equipment to scan passports/ID cards regardless of the biometric chip.

For what it's worth, the EU really should get their act together and allow people such as Serbians to travel to bordering EU countries with only a biometric ID card. They managed it for Croatia after Slovenia, Italy and Hungary joined the EU, so there's no reason why others should be banned.
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Old March 5th, 2016, 02:09 PM   #1610
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I see. Well letting SRB citizens travel to HR with ID cars would never happen. There are just too many disputes and hatred to realize that. But it is indeed doable in BG and HU borders.

Another very epic thing is that there are actually countries in EU that do not issue ID cards!! For instance UK, Norway and Denmark. I think its historic reasons. Maybe their citizens are too honest. They dont need to identify themselves lol
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Old March 6th, 2016, 09:27 PM   #1611
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I think that my ID is with biometric data, but still I can't remember.
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Old March 6th, 2016, 10:08 PM   #1612
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I see. Well letting SRB citizens travel to HR with ID cars would never happen. There are just too many disputes and hatred to realize that. But it is indeed doable in BG and HU borders.
It might not be such a big problem. SRB/HR might have historical grudges, but the main border crossing between them on the A3 was open as early as mid 1996.
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Old March 11th, 2016, 12:24 AM   #1613
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It might not be such a big problem. SRB/HR might have historical grudges, but the main border crossing between them on the A3 was open as early as mid 1996.
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Old March 23rd, 2016, 12:27 PM   #1614
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17th of April should be the date where travel with ID card only will be accepted between Kosovo and Macedonia.
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Old March 28th, 2016, 12:00 AM   #1615
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Any news for motorway from border to Kosovo to Skopje?

Btw Kosovo will finish motorway from Prishtina to border to Macedonia by the end of the next year.
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Old March 28th, 2016, 12:17 PM   #1616
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Old March 28th, 2016, 02:46 PM   #1617
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All I saw and read till now indicates that the motorway will just be built to Ferizaj. That's some kilometers before the border and the easier and cheaper part.

From there on you will need at least one tunnel and there are no works on that stretch as far as I know.
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Old March 29th, 2016, 12:43 PM   #1618
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All I saw and read till now indicates that the motorway will just be built to Ferizaj. That's some kilometers before the border and the easier and cheaper part.

From there on you will need at least one tunnel and there are no works on that stretch as far as I know.
Motorway will be built to the border.

It is decided bridges to be built to pass Kaanik gorge. Without tunnels.

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Drejtori i ktij projekti, Chris Jennions, ka thn t ndihet m i lehtsuar pas nj pune mbi nj vjeare pr t gjetur nj zgjidhje t kalimit t ktij projekti npr Kaanik dhe Han t Elezit.
The project director, Chris Jennions said to feel more relaxed after over a year of hard work to find a solution for the route of the project through Kacanik and Elez Han. - My translation..

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Old March 29th, 2016, 06:25 PM   #1619
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Okay, thanks for the link! However, works haven't started on that stretch yet as I said.

And: How to you want to build a motorway through the gorge without tunnels? Have a look at the alignment of the railway to get an idea about what's necessary to build to place a motorway there. Not a good idea in my opinion. However, I doubt that this is possible in 1.5 years.
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Old March 29th, 2016, 11:35 PM   #1620
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Okay, thanks for the link! However, works haven't started on that stretch yet as I said.

And: How to you want to build a motorway through the gorge without tunnels? Have a look at the alignment of the railway to get an idea about what's necessary to build to place a motorway there. Not a good idea in my opinion. However, I doubt that this is possible in 1.5 years.
They have started works on bridges over the existing national road that connects Prishtina with Skopje. It will go from on side of the mountain/hill to the other one. I can post a clip about it in the Kosovo thread so it is not considered off topic in this thread.
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