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Old June 30th, 2012, 11:23 PM   #341
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IMO this is the most beautiful building in Moscow U/C at the moment. Especially if they clad it in white!
This building proves that design always triumphs over height.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 03:53 AM   #342
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from that point it will begin to twist?
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Old July 1st, 2012, 01:58 PM   #343
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I'm not sure but building a skyscraper in Russia is not really more complicated than a normal house. In this case I mean the bureaucracy. Keep in mind that Russians (me included) are very proud and see skyscrapers as a sign for the long-awaited prosperity and fortune for nearly everybody.
I only know one project that has been controversial.
The former Okhta Center (400m/Gazprom tower) in Saint Peet, which was planned to be build in the center. The Unesco threatened to withdraw Saint Peterburg the World Heritage title.
Now it's name is Laktha Center(470m) and moved 10 km to the west coast.
Thank god but some people still don't want that it will be build there. I can understand them.
But normally the Russian character is just to accept things.

I live in Germany and I'm sure the "Not In My Back Yard" attitude is typically (10000%) German.
For example the "Atomausstieg"/exit of nuclear power.
First to say : Fukushima.
The "German Angst" started. Then the exit was decided but still nobody wants that power poles are build in their area because the energy of the windmills in the North (North sea,Baltic Sea) has to be transported to the South.

And who benefits ? Nos amis français because they have a 80 % part of nuclear energy and sell some electricity to Germany.

The most skyscrapers in that cluster are build fast but then came the crisis.
At the beginning the construction work on the Federation tower was freaking furious and after the crisis was a looooong break. They recontinued few months ago.

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I learned 4 years French in the school ( still go to school / 12 class).
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Many thanks for your response Donodöner. The Muscovite people are lucky because here in France (& particularly in Paris), skyscrapers are seen as non ecological/megalomaniac/eyesores...Parisians hate them since the terrible Montparnasse Tower in the early seventies...besides, it's been over 30 years that a skyscraper hasn't been built in the city...Parisians are traumatised by that passed experience...fortunately, the Mayor of Paris (Bertrand Delanoë) succeeded in making the P.L.U (Plan Local d'Urbanisme) change a couple of years ago, therefore 30 years after Montparnasse, some new projects have been proposed but as usual in this country, the Nymbys+the Green Party are ferociously opposed to them...though, The Tour Triangle(180m) might see the light despite it all, & there are another 2 projects, the T.G.I. (160m) & DUO (175m) that could follow but they are likely to take ages before rising from the ground owing to the pathetic & long local procedure...

Even in La Défense, building a tall skyscraper isn't a piece of cake...that's why I envy Moscow because its projects (huge & so aesthetic) are approved quickly & seldom face appeals while here, a major project takes up to a decade before taking shape (without mentionning the design corrections & height cut...) The Tour PHARE was unveiled in 2006 & to date, it's still blocked by several appeals, & Nymbys are so 'jusquauboutistes' that it can take another 2 or 3 years...Same with Hermitage Plaza...

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I live in Germany and I'm sure the "Not In My Back Yard" attitude is typically (10000%) German.
I doubt it dude, France is just terrible in this respect...



Moscow's projects are awesome (I love Evolution)...

Merci encore et t'inquičte, tu as de bons restes en français .

Danke .
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Old July 1st, 2012, 02:57 PM   #344
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No problem.
I heard the French are known for their protest culture but I didn't expect that it is so pronounced.
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Old July 1st, 2012, 08:49 PM   #345
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 11:08 AM   #346
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I envy Moscow because its projects (huge & so aesthetic) are approved quickly & seldom face appeal
Not any more. The current mayor is againts the IBC. He says the IBC is a mistake. I doubt new skyscrapers will be approved for Moscow while Sobyanin is a mayor of Moscow.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 12:59 PM   #347
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At least he isn't so corrupted like the old one.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 02:37 PM   #348
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 04:45 PM   #349
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Thanks Brad for your response...Moscow might have, imo, the most impressive skyline in Europe in the next few years, it only needs density though.

ps: Evolution is currently one of the best projects U/C in the world to me.
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Old July 3rd, 2012, 05:10 PM   #350
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Old July 7th, 2012, 08:33 AM   #353
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This is going really quick. I can almost see it topping out before Federation Tower. Man would that be embarrassing for Mirax.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM   #354
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Agree. These Belgians know what they are doing
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