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Old April 4th, 2012, 11:25 AM   #1981
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Thanks! Is the plan to build everything shown on the map above during 2013-2016?
The start of construction works on the section Schrick/Mistelbach - Poysbrunn is scheduled for 2013 and it should be in operation in 2016.

The works on the bypass of Drasenhofen should start 2015/16 and are planned to be completed in the year 2016/17
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Old April 4th, 2012, 11:34 AM   #1982
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The start of construction works on the section Schrick/Mistelbach - Poysbrunn is scheduled for 2013 and it should be in operation in 2016.

The works on the bypass of Drasenhofen should start 2015/16 and are planned to be completed in the year 2016/17
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Old May 4th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #1983
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There were plans in the 1970s but they were cancelled.
There would have been S11 (Bischofshofen - Lofer) and S12 (Wörgl - Unken)
as such a connection.

However nowadays there are no plans for such a connection.


(http://www.wabweb.net/verkehr/vkimages/BSG71plan.jpg)
How old is this map? Tschechlowakei? Jugoslawien?
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Old May 4th, 2012, 12:47 AM   #1984
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The filename says '71...
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Old May 5th, 2012, 01:33 AM   #1985
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Are there plans to build the S9 some day? I guess when the German A94 eventually will be finished (around the year 2437 or so), lots of traffic from Munich to Vienna would better go via Braunau and Ried i. I. instead of the crowded Irschenberg/Salzburg route (A8/A1).
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Old May 5th, 2012, 09:55 AM   #1986
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A8 and A1 is not that crowded. Only on Saturday´s in tourist seasons perhaps, but even at peak hours it´s still flowing ok.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #1987
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A8 and A1 is not that crowded. Only on Saturday´s in tourist seasons perhaps, but even at peak hours it´s still flowing ok.
On those Saturdays the A8 becomes a parking lot. Apart from that it can hardly deal with much more traffic due to it's layout between Salzburg and Munich.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 07:49 PM   #1988
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It's rather loaded for its substandard design. Widening and realigning A8 between Rosenheim and Salzburg basically means a complete new motorway.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 09:06 PM   #1989
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Therefore, splitting traffic between A8 (southbound) and A94-S9 (eastbound) would make perfect sense. However, a finished A94 still is quite far in the future.

Nevertheless, once finished, A94 will be the shortest connection between Munich and Linz/Vienna. That alone should result in a serious growth of traffic between Braunau and A1 near Ried (i.e. on the corridor the S9 was planned) no matter if A8 would be upgrated till then or not.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 01:03 PM   #1990
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Are there plans to build the S9 some day? I guess when the German A94 eventually will be finished (around the year 2437 or so), lots of traffic from Munich to Vienna would better go via Braunau and Ried i. I. instead of the crowded Irschenberg/Salzburg route (A8/A1).
With a bit of luck some S9 might be ready in 2437
Instead of building S9 they did and will do some improvements on B148, like the bypass of Altheim or St. Peter am Hart.

I don't think traffic will increase all too much on B148 just because A94 is opened. I rather think that most of the traffic that is using A94 for getting to Linz will continue on A94 from Simbach to Pocking as it is not really that much longer.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 01:09 PM   #1991
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Traffic from Munich to Vienna is relatively low. Agreed there is a lot of traffic from Munich to Salzburg, but a lot carries on to Villach and Graz from there. Most international traffic between Linz and Vienna comes from Mid and Northern Germany via Frankfurt, Nürnberg and Passau, and they don´t go anywhere near Munich. Other international traffic on A1 in Austria is what comes from Innsbruck via Rosenheim on that route.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #1992
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An A94-S9 motorway can cut some 50 kilometers off the München - Linz/Wien route compared to A8. That's quite significant.
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Yes, but is it worth it.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 04:03 PM   #1994
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Well, it might be. That depends on how traffic will develop, and there's a good chance that traffic between southern Bavaria and Eastern Europe (i.e. everything behind Vienna) will grow.
I think they have to do some upgrates, but the oney mentioned on B148 imo aren't enough. I think there are a few more stretches on B141 that would need an upgrate (e.g. bypasses of Mehrnbach and Polling and a better connection between the Western bypass of Ried and A8). Ideally, you wouldn't have to go through any village.
Another option would be to build a completely new intersection free connection across the Inn, e.g. between Rotthalmünster and Kammer.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 04:22 PM   #1995
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It would serve one of the fastest growing corridors. There's traffic growth in central Europe as well as in the München metropolitan area, which is one of the fastest growing areas of Germany.

By the way the planning of the construction of A94 between München and Altötting is now much more advanced than it was a couple of years ago. It wouldn't surprise me if A94 is finished to Braunau am Inn before 2017-2018. The last leg to Passau is another story.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #1996
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2 parallel motorways so close don't make any sens to me. what they should do is to build a new A8 between RO and S.
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An A94-S9 motorway can cut some 50 kilometers off the München - Linz/Wien route compared to A8. That's quite significant.
30 km at most. This is around 15 minutes. Compared to almost 5 h of total driving time between München and Wien not a lot.
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Old May 6th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #1998
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No, almost 50 kilometers if you drive via Ried in Innkreis instead of via Salzburg. That's well over half an hour for trucks, plus a lower toll.

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Sorry, I counted from city center to city center, which is more logical. Transit traffic from northern parts of Bavaria would go over A3 however.
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No, I fully agree with Hofburg on this, and they should make the A8 upgrade or renewal a priority, as this serves trafic from Munich and Innsbruck (I use it a lot). This new proposed motorway would only be useful to people on the East-West line from Karlsruhe to Munich. Anything else comes from Innsbruck, while anything north of Heilbronn and Nürnberg uses A3 via Passau avoiding Munich. The amount of people that would benefit from a new link from Munich to Vienna are at a bare minumum, and not worth upsetting local farmers and countryside.

And there might be traffic growth around Munich, but this has more to do with Munich being a metropiltan city, and traffic transitting through Munich, heading for the Alps, Italy and Slovenia and beyond. Like I said, transit traffic to Vienna doesn`t go via Munich but Regensburg/Passau.
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