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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:19 PM   #2141
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That last through sign is incredibly cluttered...
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Old July 6th, 2012, 07:17 PM   #2142
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I wouldn't call it incredibly cluttered, given that it's in Austria....

Also, they use the word "exit"?
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Old July 6th, 2012, 11:36 PM   #2143
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no. germans do. croatians as well. whoelse?
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Old July 7th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #2144
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I need some help

This Friday I will drive from Brno to Graz. The biggest problem is Wien. I am wondering whether to use A23 or use S-23-A-4 and S-1 ? Are any road works on A-23 ?

Thank you for help.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 07:57 PM   #2145
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No, definitely not. You don't wanna drive through Vienna to get to Graz.
That was the old route where trucks went in transit through Wien coming from Italy (A2) to CZ or the other way.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #2146
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I need some help

This Friday I will drive from Brno to Graz. The biggest problem is Wien. I am wondering whether to use A23 or use S-23-A-4 and S-1 ? Are any road works on A-23 ?

Thank you for help.
What time will you be in Vienna? You should avoid A23 on Friday afternoon as good as possible especially since many construction works are taking place right now. The A4/S1 detour is around 10 km more, but should be faster.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 12:05 AM   #2147
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That was the old route where trucks went in transit through Wien coming from Italy (A2) to CZ or the other way.
I know, but back then that sign didn't even exist.
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Old July 12th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #2148
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@cinxxx nice pics. I think the last pics are from S5 Krems-Wien i will never understand why it took so long to connect the S5 with the S33 ...
They had to construct a bridge across the Danube at the town of Traismauer.



The new Danube bridge connects the S33 in the south and the S5 in the north, providing a continuous expressway from St. Pölten to Vienna north of the Danube. The connection up to the S1 West and A5 Northern Highway South also significantly shortens the commute towards Prague and Brno.

Contractor: ALPINE Bau GmbH
Customer: ASFINAG
Construction period: 11.2007 – 10.2010
Location: Traismauer, Lower Austria
Country: Austria

ALPINE constructed the contract section “Large Bridges” that consists of the Foreshore Bridge South (330 m), the 360 m long bridge across the river Danube and the Foreshore Bridge North (460 m) as part of the connection of “S33 Kremser dual carriageway” in the south with “S5 Stockerauer dual carriageway” in the north.

The Foreshore Bridge South (actually the feeder to the actual bridge across the river Danube) consists of 10 sections with a max. single span of 35 m. The 13-section Foreshore Bridge North also has a standard span of 35 m. However, the section across the river Krems has a span of 45 m. The foundation of both bridges consists of large bore piles DM 120, a pile foundation grill on top of it and cylindrical columns of up to 15 m height. Formwork carriages were used for the construction (in sections) of the girders.

The heart of the entire contract section “Large Bridges” doubtlessly is the bridge across the river Danube with a total length of 360.00 m and single spans of 100, 160 and 100 m. Both bridge columns had been constructed close to the bank of the river. During construction they “hanged” on a support structure that sat on two pontoons. Once built they had been transported to the columns location in the river and lowered to the ground in the 13 m deep water. The bore-pile builders have then construct during day and night shifts 48 bore piles for every column, about 40 m in length. A 90 m long pontoon ship was used as a control centre and had to provide all the material needed. It was sat across the river and a bridge has connected it to the river bank. The girders had been constructed using the cantilever method of construction, starting at the hammer heads and advancing at a maximum length of 5.20 m per section.

TECHNICAL DATA:
Foreshore Bridge North: 460 m
Bridge across river: 360 m
Foreshore Bridge South: 330 m
Piles: 13,000 m
Construction concrete: 55,000 m³
Reinforcement: 7,000 tons
Internal pre-stressing steel: 621 tons
External pre-stressing steel: 170 tons
Sealing: 36,000 m²

http://www.zement.at/service/literat...traismauer.pdf

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Old July 12th, 2012, 11:01 PM   #2149
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Impressive and beautiful bridge!

Is this a sidewalk for pedestrians below the road attached to the bridge?

If so: Cool, the perfect location for ship spotting!
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Old July 13th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #2150
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Most likely for cycling and pedestrians, yes.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #2151
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Lots of congestion in Bregenz after a fatal accident in the Pfänder Tunnel. A female motorist was killed after she collided with a truck at 1.20 pm. It's the 5th accident in the new tube since it opened less than a month ago. ASFiNAG cannot explain the accidents, because the new tube is the safest and most modern around. The accidents will be gone when the old tube is renovated and 2x2 lanes will be available to traffic in 2013.

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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:01 PM   #2152
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My theory is that some motorists think the opening of the new tube means that it's already 2x2.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #2153
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The tunnel carries 30.000 vehicles per day, which means it's a virtually constant stream of vehicles in both directions. You gotta be pretty blind to miss all oncoming traffic...

An often underestimated amount of head-on accidents are not caused by passing, but mainly by getting off the road on the right side, then swerve across the road to the left side, crashing straight into oncoming traffic.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:42 PM   #2154
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Probably mainly used by tourists. And tourists are the worlds worst drivers, especially the Dutch and Germans around here.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #2155
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The 21 year old woman who died in the crash in the Pfänder Tunnel wasn´t a tourist. She lived in that region and should have known how to drive in a single tube tunnel.





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Another deadly crash in a tunnel today:

A 53 year old driver died in the Dalaas Tunnel (S16) after he hit a truck head-on.






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Old July 16th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #2156
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Here you can see the video from the ORF about the accidents
It is in German
http://tvthek.orf.at/programs/70024-...Tunnelunfaelle
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Old July 17th, 2012, 06:35 PM   #2157
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Some people already cry for dowsing-ing the tunnel to avoid negative energy... The reasons for the accidents are more down-to-earth and include (according to the highway patrol):
- one driver fell asleep while driving
- in one vehicle, the axle broke
- one driver simply drove too far on the left
- and the most stupid one was a driver who allegedly said he drove too far away from the walls because he was scared of tunnels...

Nevertheless, the news reports are accompanied by nicknames for the tunnel like "the death-tube", "horror tunnel", and "black hole of death" among others...
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Old July 21st, 2012, 07:47 PM   #2158
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Are there any plans to connect Austria from east to west with a motorway? In essence to be able to reach Innsbruck from Vienna on motorway without leaving Austria?

There is a road via Linz all the way north which is all motorway but it goes through Germany for 100kms and extends the journey because it's too north. In Austria there is an 80km part from Liezen to Tauern Autobahn that is not a motorway. Southern road via Judenburg is also not a motorway. There is a motorway to Spittal an der Drau on the south but even if they would connect that to Innsbruck it would be too long from Vienna but would be useful for southern traffic as unlike the north and option through Germany here there is no option through Italy.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 08:07 PM   #2159
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No plans at all. It would cost a shitload of money for something that is not needed at all. If you, for instance, want to connect the A 10 and A 12 between Bischofshofen und Wörgl we are talking about 140 km through the Alps with really narrow valleys. Such a project would also massive lower the quality of living is the villages affected. Austria and Germany also have a really close relationship that there is no political reason for such a connection as well.
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Old July 21st, 2012, 08:24 PM   #2160
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Well it's not like current motorways didn't cost shitload with all the bridges and tunnels. The reasons aren't political, Austria would make more money in the future because it would collect toll, it would be good for the economy because it would shorten the drive through the country etc.
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