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Old August 22nd, 2012, 10:48 PM   #2261
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Some pictures from the B177 German border (comming from Garmisch-Partenkirchen) - Innsbruck. There's some serious descent there with lots of Notwege.

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Old August 23rd, 2012, 01:35 AM   #2262
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Wechselstube?What they change in that
Nice Pictures,this is a nice road but unfortunately full of buses,campers and so on
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 09:13 AM   #2263
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I know that road very well, I've driven there dozens of times... there's a nice smell of burnt brakes at the end of the descent
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 01:26 PM   #2264
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Burnt brakes mostly from flatland tourists who haven't got a clue on how to drive in the mountains and stand on the pedal brakes instead of engine braking.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 01:30 PM   #2265
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Talking about Germans?
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 01:30 PM   #2266
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Burnt brakes mostly from flatland tourists who haven't got a clue on how to drive in the mountains and stand on the pedal brakes instead of engine braking.
Exactly
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 04:14 PM   #2267
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We mostly used engine braking, didn't smell any brake smell .
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 07:28 PM   #2268
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Flachlandtiroler, that is @ KingNick.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:41 PM   #2269
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I think this may be the most obscure E-route of Austria; the E641. It runs from Wörgl to Salzburg via Bad Reichenhall. It's the former route of the E60 (which ran there between 1983 and 1985). Is it even signed? I doubt that.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #2270
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Nice pictures

These snow-mountains are very beauty.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 01:24 AM   #2271
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The route is widely known as "Kleines Deutsches Eck" (opposed to the "Großes Deutsches Eck which are A8/A93). By the way, that's the only road in Germany where spike tires are allowed in order to simplify Austrian transit traffic.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #2272
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The route is widely known as "Kleines Deutsches Eck" (opposed to the "Großes Deutsches Eck which are A8/A93). By the way, that's the only road in Germany where spike tires are allowed in order to simplify Austrian transit traffic.
And the medium size Deutsches Eck is in Koblenz where the rivers Mosel and Rhein meet
A few beautiful,unknown pass roads connect Austria and Germany.When you are in the region try a few
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Old August 26th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #2273
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I think this may be the most obscure E-route of Austria; the E641. It runs from Wörgl to Salzburg via Bad Reichenhall. It's the former route of the E60 (which ran there between 1983 and 1985). Is it even signed? I doubt that.
I am proud to say I have done nearly all of the E60. Only a bit missing between Cluj-Napoca and the Black Sea. Done it in different stages though, especially in Britanny, however, one time I have set of from Cluj on a Friday, got to the A12/E60 exit on a Saturday to be in Mayrhofen for the night, and carried on the E60 on the Sunday through Switzerland and France, to be in Amboise, just outside Tours the following Monday morning.
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E60 runs to the Chinese border. Only about half of E60 is west of the Black Sea.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 11:36 AM   #2275
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Well, most of the European side of it then. Can't these Asiens have their own routes?
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Old August 26th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #2276
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yeah, thats what i thought too: what the hell is an e-route doing at the chinese border?
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Old August 26th, 2012, 11:47 AM   #2277
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Because E-routes are administered by UNECE, a UN agency, and Central Asian republics are members of UNECE since the early 1990s. Therefore, E-routes are theoretically possible in the United States, Canada and Israel because they are also a member of UNECE.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 12:40 PM   #2278
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So how about extend I-70 to Long Island, then a bridge/tunnel to Corunna and join it with E70?



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I think this may be the most obscure E-route of Austria; the E641. It runs from Wörgl to Salzburg via Bad Reichenhall. It's the former route of the E60 (which ran there between 1983 and 1985). Is it even signed? I doubt that.
It is not even marked in Google Maps. It goes via route 178 in Austria and B21 in Germany.

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I am proud to say I have done nearly all of the E60. Only a bit missing between Cluj-Napoca and the Black Sea. Done it in different stages though, especially in Britanny, however, one time I have set of from Cluj on a Friday, got to the A12/E60 exit on a Saturday to be in Mayrhofen for the night, and carried on the E60 on the Sunday through Switzerland and France, to be in Amboise, just outside Tours the following Monday morning.
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E60 runs to the Chinese border. Only about half of E60 is west of the Black Sea.
So Road_UK, when you believe you have E60 almost completed you realize you are only halfway. I've seen photos with E60 signed as far as Azerbaijan, further east is unsigned. Some kind of the same occurs to me: I have clinched almost all the official E07 (Between Zaragoza and Pau), with only the section around Pau to E80 missing. But then they have extended North to Langon and South to Torrubia (Where the motoway used to end back in 2006), the latter one already clinched by me.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 04:06 PM   #2279
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No fun clinching E-routes when half of them appear to be hidden alongside the Great Wall of China.
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They should link Fussen and Innsbruck with a highway, and do the same with Garmisch-Partenkirschen.
What about a 15-20km tunnel from the A12 near Telfs to somewhere near Ehrwald, with roads then connecting to the German A7 near Fussen and A95 near Eschenlohe? It would probably need extra tolls (Maut) like the A13. It would relieve the A12 between Kufstein and Innsbruck (as well as the German A8 and A93).
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