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Old September 11th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #2321
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I think the old signage was fine.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:24 AM   #2322
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I think the old signage was fine.
Personally I didn't have many problems with the old signage, too, except maybe Jörg's stupid Italien and Slowenien.
When I was a child I remember seeing Ljubljana (YU) and Udine (I) on the old signs.

The reason for the new signs is that Asfinag hopes to get rid of the recent summer traffic jams at Knoten Villach without adding lanes.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:42 AM   #2323
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Personally I didn't have many problems with the old signage, too, except maybe Jörg's stupid Italien and Slowenien.
When I was a child I remember seeing Ljubljana (YU) and Udine (I) on the old signs.
It could be worse if they put Laibach and Weiden.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:49 PM   #2324
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The reason for the new signs is that Asfinag hopes to get rid of the recent summer traffic jams at Knoten Villach without adding lanes.
New signage as it is won't help, that's for sure.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:50 PM   #2325
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It could be worse if they put Laibach and Weiden.
At least they now sign Maribor in Styria (on new signs at Knoten Graz-West for example) and not just Slowenien.
So Carinthia is the only federal state where they are still signing Countries and not Cities. And I hope they'll change this when they hopefully change their corrupt and nationalistic government at the coming elections.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:51 PM   #2326
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Unusual for Austria to replace rising arrows with falling ones. They only recently replaced the last falling arrows at Salzburg and Graz.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #2327
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Unusual for Austria to replace rising arrows with falling ones. They only recently replaced the last falling arrows at Salzburg and Graz.
There is still an even new sign at Salzburg-Mitte exit in direction Vienna with a falling arrow.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #2328
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They have replaced the falling arrow at exit Salzburg Flughafen last year.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 01:14 PM   #2329
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road signage should really be up to a country to decide but that's another topic...
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Old September 12th, 2012, 01:21 PM   #2330
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So Carinthia is the only federal state where they are still signing Countries and not Cities. And I hope they'll change this when they hopefully change their corrupt and nationalistic government at the coming elections.
Strange that Asfinag is under influence of local nationalistic leaders. We still have old signs to Austria (Avstrija) but today they are just cities. Villach and Klagenfurt (and Graz too) are clearly signed already before Ljubljana on all interchanges and on all confirmation signs.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 04:05 PM   #2331
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road signage should really be up to a country to decide but that's another topic...
But anyone can express an opinion, surely?
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:37 PM   #2332
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Personally I didn't have many problems with the old signage, too, except maybe Jörg's stupid Italien and Slowenien.
The first signs (probably 1 km ahead) showed Ljubljana and Udine, what happened to them?

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When I was a child I remember seeing Ljubljana (YU) and Udine (I) on the old signs.
Where was that? Karawankentunnel opened just one month before the breakup of Yugoslavia.

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Strange that Asfinag is under influence of local nationalistic leaders. We still have old signs to Austria (Avstrija) but today they are just cities. Villach and Klagenfurt (and Graz too) are clearly signed already before Ljubljana on all interchanges and on all confirmation signs.
Klagenfurt first appears by Kranj (but it's not so important).
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:41 PM   #2333
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I don't exactly know and think that Asfinag is under influence of nationalists but what i know is that Jörg Haider ordered to change signage in the nineties. I think it had something to do with the conflict about bilingual city-entrance signs.

However since Haider ordered this there have been no more Ljubljanas and Udines, except where they forgot to change
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #2334
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Where was that? Karawankentunnel opened just one month before the breakup of Yugoslavia.
At Knoten Villach there was Ljubljana (YU) and I think they didn't change the oval quite some time. But ther also was Ljubljana (SLO) later.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:47 PM   #2335
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I saw plenty of Ljubljanas and Udines a couple of years ago in Villach. But none in Klagenfurt, they just sign Loibl (SLO).
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:57 PM   #2336
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i dont understand the slovenian-austrian border anyway.tito risked so manny trouble with the allies,even a war,cause of trieste,a town that honestly is totaly unimportant,but didnt take nothing away from austria that was just a part of germany,the main enemy.normaly villach,klagenfurt,graz and so on,the whole regions of kärnten and steiermark should be in sfrj so today in slovenija as kranjska i štajerska.every village where slovenians live in austria normaly should be in slovenija then we would not have those problems with the signing
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Old September 13th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #2337
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At Knoten Villach there was Ljubljana (YU) and I think they didn't change the oval quite some time.
Ah yes, we got the SLO code only in 1992 (we used unofficial SL in the meantime and we still could).

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i dont understand the slovenian-austrian border anyway.tito risked so manny trouble with the allies,even a war,cause of trieste,a town that honestly is totaly unimportant,but didnt take nothing away from austria that was just a part of germany,the main enemy.normaly villach,klagenfurt,graz and so on,the whole regions of kärnten and steiermark should be in sfrj so today in slovenija as kranjska i štajerska.every village where slovenians live in austria normaly should be in slovenija then we would not have those problems with the signing
Austria was Germany's victim (especially one particular Austrian ).
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Old September 13th, 2012, 12:07 AM   #2338
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Ah yes, we got the SLO code only in 1992 (we used unofficial SL in the meantime and we still could).

Austria was Germany's victim (especially one particular Austrian ).
you mean robert almer
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Old September 13th, 2012, 02:17 AM   #2339
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At least they removed this sign with E51.

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/69762753

Did they replace this sign as well?

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/69762713
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Old September 13th, 2012, 02:31 AM   #2340
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cause of trieste,a town that honestly is totaly unimportant
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