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Old February 4th, 2013, 02:06 AM   #2701
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Is the A13 Brenner - Innsbruch süd the only vignette-free autobahn/schnellstrasse in Austria?
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Old February 4th, 2013, 02:43 AM   #2702
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Can't think of another one right now. Still you have to pay toll there.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 03:39 AM   #2703
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You don't need a vignette where you have to pay for tunnels (Karawanken, Tauern, Katschberg ...).
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Old February 4th, 2013, 03:54 AM   #2704
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what do you mean?^
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Old February 4th, 2013, 05:40 AM   #2705
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What I said. You have to pay 6.5 € for the Karawankentunnel, f.e., but you need neither Austrian nor Slovenian vignette to drive through it (between interchanges Sankt Jakob im Rosental and Jesenice-zahod).
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Old February 4th, 2013, 09:16 AM   #2706
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You don't need the Austrian Vignette on this motorway sections, but you have to pay the "Sondermaut" on this sections.

A9 Pyhrnautobahn Bosrucktunnel EUR 4,50
A9 Pyhrnautobahn Gleinalmtunnel EUR 8,00
A10 Tauernautobahn Tauern- and Katschbergtunnel EUR 10,00 or EUR 5,00 for one tunnel
A11 Karawankenautobahn Karawankentunnel EUR 6,50
A13 Brennerautobahn Border A/I - Innsbruck-Süd EUR 8,50
S16 Arlbergschnellstraße Arlbergtunnel EUR 9,00
If you don't have a vignette you have to leave the motorway at the next exit after the tunnel. After Innsbruck-Süd you need the vignette, too.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 11:22 AM   #2707
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You don't need the Austrian Vignette on this motorway sections, but you have to pay the "Sondermaut" on this sections.
Can you pay for the vignette for Slovenia (or Austria) at the same time as paying for the Karawanken tunnel? It would make sense since you have to stop anyway...
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Old February 4th, 2013, 11:27 AM   #2708
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Can you pay for the vignette for Slovenia (or Austria) at the same time as paying for the Karawanken tunnel? It would make sense since you have to stop anyway...
Not at the toll booths.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 11:44 AM   #2709
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You can buy vignette at the toll booth for Europabrücke.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #2710
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About Karawankentunnel
You can get the Austrian Vignette on the Slovenian side of the toll booth.

On the Austrian side of the toll booth you can get the Slovenian Vignette.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #2711
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1. What do you mean by "to take a person"? What exactly did they do? They followed you to the cash desk of the petrol station, right? Or how did it exactly happen?
2. I can answer that after clearing 1.
3. Nobody really knows. They say "no", I say "yes".

From my experience what they do is always legitimate but unfair.
I am not sure, I was just standing at the Cash desk when someone grabbed my hand and said "Kommen Sie, bitte" or something like that. I think they arrived to the Raststation, saw my car standing there without vignette (but with my family inside) and asked people around where was the driver.
I am also not sure, but maybe Energy is right, since the Raststation is also part of the highway. But, it sounds a buit strange to me that asfinag officers (not police!) can take you of the coffee and ask documents or whatever. I mean traffic police can stop you only when you are in the car, they are not allowed to capture you from the restaurant for wrong parking.
Second, this is kind of penalty system, and it is always ilegitimate to base it on quota or bonus system. I know they do it quite often in many countries, but it can not be legitimate. Just imagine the court, where the judge is paid more if his/her verdicts are more severe. Say, he gets 100,00 EURO for every year of prison of the suspect. Or, quota system, where he must make two death sentences per week! Of course, his verdicts would be ilegitimate.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #2712
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One question (asked in both Hungarian and Austrian threads):

At the end of this month I'm going to drive from Romania to Austria (for skiing ). This will not be a problem, but: my girlfriend just got her drivers license last week and I want to let her drive part of the road so that she gains some experience. Are there any special regulations regarding beginner drivers in your country? Can she drive legally, without any problems?

For example, in Romania the only thing is that beginner drivers have to drive -10 km below the speed limit on rural roads (-20 km/h on motorways).
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:02 PM   #2713
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:30 PM   #2714
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@vladjack: Petrol station definitely IS part of the highway. Also parking lots that belong to autobahn-hotels.
I checked the ASFINAG-Homepage and found some interesting facts: ASFINAG-officers have the legitimacy to check drivers ID and also to find out who´s the driver of a car (in case they didn´t stop him like in your case). And they even have the right to stop you from driving away for example by fixing those "wheel-clamps" onto your car.
And I continued reading there that ASFINAG-officers are "sworn in" even to the government and therefore have some rights you would think only policemen have.

@bogdymol: No restrictions for beginners except 0,0 for alcohol (instead of 0,5).
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:33 PM   #2715
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Only lower levels for DUIs. 0.1 per mille for beginners, but I sure hope that won't be a problem in your case.
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #2716
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Alcohol will not be a problem. Something else?
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #2717
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@vladjack: Petrol station definitely IS part of the highway. Also parking lots that belong to autobahn-hotels.
A question rising from the autobahn-hotels: if one spends a night in such hotel, and the vignette expires during that night, is it ok if a new one is bought in the morning before driving away?

If not: is it possible to buy the vignette in the evening but mark it so that the validity begins the next day: and so there would be two vignettes in the car during that night?
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:47 PM   #2718
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Alcohol will not be a problem. Something else?
Yeah, Austrians are extremely xenophobic, love to mob gipsies through their towns, look down on every other ethnicity and are generally speaking the worst human beings to ever set a foot on this earth. You're warned!
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Old February 4th, 2013, 08:59 PM   #2719
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Yeah, Austrians are extremely xenophobic, love to mob gipsies through their towns, look down on every other ethnicity and are generally speaking the worst human beings to ever set a foot on this earth. You're warned!
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Old February 4th, 2013, 09:00 PM   #2720
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A question rising from the autobahn-hotels: if one spends a night in such hotel, and the vignette expires during that night, is it ok if a new one is bought in the morning before driving away?

If not: is it possible to buy the vignette in the evening but mark it so that the validity begins the next day: and so there would be two vignettes in the car during that night?
Good question - and the answer takes us back to the incident I´ve mentioned in my postings a few days ago. For exactly that thing in the end I paid €400,-.
Of course the story was a bit more complicated, but that was what happened to me in 2007.

Yes, it would be possible to buy a vignette the day before and mark it with the next day. BUT: Only 3 vignettes at the same time on your windscreen - otherwise you will be fined (and be sure, you will be).
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