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Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:19 PM   #301
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A5 Nordautobahn



Length: 58km
Vienna/Eibesbrunn-Wolkersdorf-Gaweinstal-Poysbrunn-Drasenhofen-CZ/Brno
Province: Lower Austria

Status: under construction (Eibesbrunn-Schrick, to be opened in 2010), planned (Schrick-CZ)
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:22 PM   #302
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Some part of A5 is under construction ?
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Old January 3rd, 2008, 05:37 PM   #303
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Indeed. The southern half.




The part between "Knoten Eibesbrunn" and "Anschlussstelle Schrick" is u/c right now.
However, Eibesbrunn interchange does not yet exist, as S1 has not been extended to the north of Vienna.

The cross section:


Eibesbrunn interchange:


S1 and A5:
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Old January 5th, 2008, 07:21 PM   #304
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A4 Ostautobahn E60



Length: 66km
Vienna-Schwechat-VIE airport-Bruck/Leitha-Neusiedl-Nickelsdorf-Hungarian M1
Provinces: Vienna, Lower Austria, Burgenland

built: ?
Status: finished
´Twas built/inaugerated between 1978-1994 according to http://members.a1.net/wabweb/frames/aab1f.htm
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Old January 26th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #305
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I heard there are new crazy rules about speeding in the night.

They set a low speed limit at night (100 or something like that), and if you violate it, it will be punished as an environmental crime leading to fines of thousands of euro's! Can anyone confirm this?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #306
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I haven't heard about is yet, but sounds ridiculous. Enviromental? And the speed limit applies on all sections?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #307
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Actually they are not very new. And yes, they are quite rigorous. A10 Taurenautobahn is littered with those 100 km/h sections, some are tens of km long. 100 km/h limit is valid during whole day for all vehicles.

Under 100 km/h sign there is written "Umweltschutz" (Enviroment protection) with quite small letters. This means that you are not anymore under "protection" of ordinary traffic law. One such long section on A10 is around Salzburg, about 30 km long. Driving there is boring as hell. Having cruise control in your car helps a lot.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 09:59 PM   #308
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100 km/h limit is valid during whole day for all vehicles.
So it is not only at night - which for me seens to be nonsensical
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:00 PM   #309
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Of course you pollute more with 100 km/h in the 5th gear than I do with e.g. 110 km/h (not sure about 130 km/h) in the 6th gear. But I don't drive 100 km/h in the 6th gear.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:04 PM   #310
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A slighter higher speed limit does nothing for the air quality in the surrounding area, because background concentrations are significantly high, that 100 or 130km/h doesn't matter much. It only affects the area immediatly above the driving lanes. Step 100 meters away from the Autobahn, and the concentrations are significantly lower, and the difference is very much near zero.

This seems to me as a symbolical act from parties who's live goal it is to irritate drivers and make as much money out of them as possibly.

Driving 30km/h faster than an unusual low speed limit and fine it like an environmental crime is no more than ridiculous.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:09 PM   #311
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This seems to me as a symbolical act from parties...
...to make them appear more enviromentally friendly


Still, there must be at least slight diference in pollution between 100 and 130 km/h
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #312
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Still, there must be at least slight diference in pollution between 100 and 130 km/h
I have an environmental impact assessment of the A5 near Amsterdam.

It shows the different amounts of pollution with a 80, 100 and 120 km/h variant.

The only difference is measurable directly above the driving lanes. Who is living there? Nobody. Like i said, step aside 100 meters from the motorway, and the whole difference is gone, because the background concentrations "overshadow" the pollution of the motorway.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #313
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Convince Germans in order not to make them introduce 130km/h on Autobahns (ecology is the biggest argument)
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #314
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I think it is not so much about pollution as it is about noise reduction. This 100 km/h limit with a combination of sometimes absurd tall noise barriers it makes boooooring driving.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:27 PM   #315
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I also fought it was it, but I don't know whether this limit overlaps with nearby densly poputated places

When talking about noise reduction - what if I were driving 100km/h in lower gear than normally?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:35 PM   #316
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When talking about noise reduction - what if I were driving 100km/h in lower gear than normally?
That doesn't matter. Above 50km/h the noise of the engine is much lower than those from tires on the pavement, because of the speed. Though 100 or 80 doesn't matter that much for noise levels on busy motorways. It has emerged into one giant noise level by then.

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I think it is not so much about pollution as it is about noise reduction. This 100 km/h limit with a combination of sometimes absurd tall noise barriers it makes boooooring driving.
Yes, noise is usually higher with a 130km/h speed limit than with 100. Though especially at the night sections, the traffic is significantly lower than during the day, so that doesn't matter extremely much to the Lden level. Also, trucktraffic is not affected by this measure, though they produce a significant level of pollution and noise.

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Convince Germans in order not to make them introduce 130km/h on Autobahns (ecology is the biggest argument)
Well, ecology can mean multiple things, like the pollution, but also the consuming of fuel. It is obvious that driving 150 consumes a lot more fuel than 120, not to even mention 200km/h. You can almost throw your gasoline out of the window to achieve the same rate of fuel consumption when driving 200km/h.
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:39 PM   #317
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Well, ecology can mean multiple things, like the pollution, but also the consuming of fuel. It is obvious that driving 150 consumes a lot more fuel than 120, not to even mention 200km/h. You can almost throw your gasoline out of the window to achieve the same rate of fuel consumption when driving 200km/h.
OK, You're right :P
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:41 PM   #318
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Lately Chris has been laughing much more than usually, what's the deal with that?
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Old January 26th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #319
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Maybe this?
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Chris, be frank with us.
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