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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM   #481
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[QUOTE=x-type;24545756]short?? Austria has actually very long merging lanes comparing to other countries. must have been subjective.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:56 PM   #482
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- Not much lighting and so the roads were very dark at night.
This is normal for most of Europe outside towns and cities.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:05 PM   #483
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This is normal for most of Europe outside towns and cities.
Mainly for electricity conservation and light-pollution.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 06:27 PM   #484
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More or less only because of light pollution. There's enough electricity to light most of roads in Europe.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 07:25 PM   #485
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now i have measured some merging lanes at minor exits and they are mostly about 250 meters long, what is really long!
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Old August 29th, 2008, 08:18 PM   #486
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In Austria we have very long merging lanes!
when i drove in germany the first time i was shocked that the lane ends so early
....i used the hard shoulder to get enough speed to merge in traffic......
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Old September 7th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #487
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Are there any plans to extend Spittal motorway bypass (A10 - also) at least until intersection of federal roads B100 (towards Lienz) and B106 (towards Malnitz)?
I understand, that Lienz won't never get motorway (however bypass of this city towards Felbertaurentunnel is much needed), but few minutes here and there would be very nice.
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Old September 7th, 2008, 10:29 PM   #488
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In Austria we have very long merging lanes!
when i drove in germany the first time i was shocked that the lane ends so early
....i used the hard shoulder to get enough speed to merge in traffic......
OK. Next time I go to Austria I will make a special point of looking out to see whether I was wrong about this.

I don't see anyone arguing with my opinion that the off-ramp angles were too sharp . . .
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Old September 7th, 2008, 11:00 PM   #489
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OK. Next time I go to Austria I will make a special point of looking out to see whether I was wrong about this.

I don't see anyone arguing with my opinion that the off-ramp angles were too sharp . . .
Usually you can drive on offramp 60km/h without problem (only offramp, which I have seen, where you must drive slower is Seirsberg (near Graz)! So 60km/h is for me enough fast for offramp!
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Old September 8th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #490
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Usually you can drive on offramp 60km/h without problem (only offramp, which I have seen, where you must drive slower is Seirsberg (near Graz)! So 60km/h is for me enough fast for offramp!
The problem is not so much that actual speed at which you can drive, but the rate at which you are forced to decelerate.

It seemed to me that the off ramps started out fairly gently and then suddenly swung round to the right at a very sharp angle. This caught me out the first time and I had to slow down very quickly to avoid going through the crash barrier. After that of course I knew what to expect and it wasn't a problem any more.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #491
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The problem is not so much that actual speed at which you can drive, but the rate at which you are forced to decelerate.

It seemed to me that the off ramps started out fairly gently and then suddenly swung round to the right at a very sharp angle. This caught me out the first time and I had to slow down very quickly to avoid going through the crash barrier. After that of course I knew what to expect and it wasn't a problem any more.
From which country are you and how offramps look in your country that European offramps are slow for you???
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From which country are you and how offramps look in your country that European offramps are slow for you???
I'm from Israel. I'm not going to get into a "Mine's better than yours" type argument, especially as I was on the whole very impressed with the Austrian roads.

However, I am certain that the angles here are on average less sharp than those I met with in Austria. This is not to say that we don't have any slow off-ramps, especially on older roads. I have driven in several other European countries and do not remember the off ramps being so consistently tight as the Austrian ones.
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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:11 PM   #493
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Austrian, German, Italian and ex-YU countries offramps are quite tight already by default, even newer ones. Scandinavian ones are pretty luxurious. I'm not so sure by others, but so it is.
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Austrian, German, Italian and ex-YU countries offramps are quite tight already by default, even newer ones. Scandinavian ones are pretty luxurious. I'm not so sure by others, but so it is.
that's right. our new mostly have even smaller radius than old. but i have noticed that in Hungary they have larger radius
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I'm from Israel. I'm not going to get into a "Mine's better than yours" type argument, especially as I was on the whole very impressed with the Austrian roads.

However, I am certain that the angles here are on average less sharp than those I met with in Austria. This is not to say that we don't have any slow off-ramps, especially on older roads. I have driven in several other European countries and do not remember the off ramps being so consistently tight as the Austrian ones.
austrain roas are very good. Look nice, asphalt feels nice and they have lots of good looking roundabouts. But I don´t like Austrian motorways since most of them are of old concrete which is very bumpy. Even the few asphalt peaces are made of that hard asphalt that it feels like massive concrete. too.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 04:36 PM   #497
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great thread

interesting thread about the expressway S1 around vienna.
the average daily traffic has reached its capacity limit...in only two years since opening.

http://www.autobahn-online.de/phorum/read.php?3,110393
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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:24 PM   #498
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Wie auf members.a1.net/wabweb unter "S1" ersichtlich, beträgt der durchschnittliche Tagesverkehr auf der S1 im Abschnitt Vösendorf-Schwechat teilweise bereits über 60.000 Kfz! Dies gilt gemeinhin als Kapazitätsgrenze für zweispurige Autobahnen.
It says the AADT has reached 60.000 and is apparantly seen as the capacity limit. However, it's a limit where traffic begins to flow worse, but there are many motorways which even tip the 80.000 - 100.000 range with 2x2 lanes.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:35 PM   #499
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reached 60.000
Exceeded.

With 80 - 100 000 on 2x2 what is the actual average speed?
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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #500
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The A28 in the Netherlands near Amersfoort carries 100.000 vehicles a day. It's congested from 6 to 10 and from 15 to 19 but sometimes nearly all day. Speed limit is 100 km/h there. I think the maximum mostly free-flow situation is somewhere near 80.000 AADT. Above that, you'll get a lot of congestion, but it also depends on alignement and the number of exits.
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