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Old December 29th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #601
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i have heard that A9 between St. Pankraz and Klaus is finnished, is that right or wrong information?
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Old December 29th, 2008, 06:13 PM   #602
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All of A9 was completed a few years ago.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 07:51 PM   #603
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Yes, but not in full profile.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 08:36 PM   #604
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i'm asking about full profile
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Old December 29th, 2008, 08:43 PM   #605
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Aren't there some one-tubed tunnels?
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Old December 29th, 2008, 08:49 PM   #606
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2 longest ones, Gleinalm and Bosruck. but i remember 10 km long section in 2 directions with lots of tunnels (St. Pankraz - Klaus), aldo some longer than 2 km. we should get somebody who passed there recently to tell us. i tell you, some people told me that it has been upgraded, but somehow i don't believe it.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 10:02 PM   #607
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Looking at Asfinag site (here and here), it will be finished no earlier than 2020. Considering only 500 milion euro for all remaining tunnels it is quite dissapointing, especially because you pay extra money for those tunnels.

And for Gleinalmtunnel I dind't find any plans or dates for completion. Probably not until 2020.
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an accident 7 years ago from that tunnel - 5 death.

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Old December 29th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #608
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The most expensive option, i.e., an almost 10 km long tunnel under Danube and Lobau, is already what is planned. Even a special ventilation concept is planned to avoid the construction of ventilation shafts within the boundaries of the Danube floodplains national park.

The problem is, our greenies do not accept that traffic won't become less just because of not building roads. It has taken us in the Bregenz area almost 30 years to convince the politicians that a 2nd tube of Pfänder tunnel is necessary (current ADT: 28,000)...
Green parties are very important now, but not building roads is probably the wrong way as Chris mentioned.
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Old December 29th, 2008, 10:20 PM   #609
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Not counting safety issues etc., but only congestion, I wonder, if second tubes are really necessary until we have to stop to pay for them anyway.
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Looking at Asfinag site (here and here), it will be finished no earlier than 2020. Considering only 500 milion euro for all remaining tunnels it is quite dissapointing, especially because you pay extra money for those tunnels.

And for Gleinalmtunnel I dind't find any plans or dates for completion. Probably not until 2020.
Ahh yes, also:
tnx. i heard earlier about late completion of that section, but today somebody told me it was finnished. now i see he told me wrong.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 12:16 PM   #611
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A14 traffic to A96 (Bavaria)

so, cause we´ve nothing better to do, traffic @ last Saturday
(same would be in the other direction but i took the special way around the traffic)

direction Germany Bregenz to Lindau













i tried to give you new impressions in 1km steps
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Ah the winter holiday traffic
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Old December 30th, 2008, 02:38 PM   #613
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Hm. The Korridorvignette seems to work really good. I can't remember so little traffic in the towns (Lindau - Bregenz - Höchst) like this christmas. Just another reason not throwing money senseless to ASFINAG.
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of course, for you all, on my way back i drove through Bregenz (cause i had a termin there), and the traffic was ok, but not really good.

still car-after-car through the whole town
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Any update regarding the Wien - Brno stretch...?
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Green parties are very important now, but not building roads is probably the wrong way as Chris mentioned.
In contrast to many others participating in road or plane or construction forums, I do see the necessity of environmental protection. However, my interpretation of that is to build the roads/railways/etc. as environmentally friendly as possible. Let's take the example of Bregenz: one-tubed Pfändertunnel (designed for ADT 16,000 to 18,000, currently 28,000 ADT) and no high-ranking connection to Switzerland (axis Munich - Zurich). Thus, traffic both in Bregenz and on the motorway in front of the tunnel is congested on an almost daily basis. Now I'm pretty sure the additional greenhouse gases emitted by the induced traffic due to expansion of the Pfändertunnel and building a connection to Switzerland is more than offset by the decrease of fuel consumed in the not-any-more congested corridor after opening the high-rank connections.

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Hm. The Korridorvignette seems to work really good. I can't remember so little traffic in the towns (Lindau - Bregenz - Höchst) like this christmas. Just another reason not throwing money senseless to ASFINAG.
Yes, I recently read a report on ORF online about a 5% increase of traffic in Pfändertunnel since introduction of the Korridorvignette, compared to the same month the year before! A comparable reduction of traffic on L190 was observed.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 07:41 PM   #617
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Any update regarding the Wien - Brno stretch...?
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:46 PM   #618
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Old January 4th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #619
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Anyone knows what's the best way to get from Brno to Salzburg and further to Mayrhofen? I'm especially interested in passing by Vienna.
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Anyone knows what's the best way to get from Brno to Salzburg and further to Mayrhofen? I'm especially interested in passing by Vienna.
i'd go via Znojmo, Krems and St. Pölten
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