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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:44 PM   #901
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i drove from Graz to Klagenfurt too last week and it´s not that bad.

it looks like a dangerours place to do construction work on the highway, cause there are a LOT of curves
You're right. It's nothing compared to what it used to be a few years ago.
Extremely narrow lanes without shoulders, because only half of the freeway has been built which had to serve both directions. At some points there wasn't any kind of divider between opposing traffic. Accidents were very common on that stretch, afaik. And let's not forget the 2-lane tunnels that caused huge backups in the summer.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #902
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Is that why there is a left shoulder on A2? Which is closed with barriers.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 08:53 PM   #903
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Is that why there is a left shoulder on A2? Which is closed with barriers.
I guess so, if it was on the uphill part after the nice 2x3 section. The southbound (uphill) side was used for both directions back then.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:35 PM   #904
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You're right. It's nothing compared to what it used to be a few years ago.
Extremely narrow lanes without shoulders, because only half of the freeway has been built which had to serve both directions. At some points there wasn't any kind of divider between opposing traffic. Accidents were very common on that stretch, afaik. And let's not forget the 2-lane tunnels that caused huge backups in the summer.

I drove from Liechtenstein to Hungarian Boarder and back to Klagenfurt at the same day .... driving this highway @ Pack needs full concentration.

I realized when i drove that specially this road is not good when you´re tired.


I think for people who come back from holidays in the south to (example) Vienna and they have young children in the car and are may tired there surely can happen dangerous situations
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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:39 PM   #905
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Yeah a lot of A2 is limited to 100 km/h in that area, lots of tunnels, and lots of tight curves. Actually, I think A2 goes higher than A9 and A10! I saw a sign with 958 m somewhere. I think at the border of Steiermark and Kärnthen.
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Old August 18th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #906
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Nah, the A10 goes to 1340 m, I don't think that the A2 reaches that.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 01:45 PM   #907
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i was in Bruck an der Mur, i took some photos when i was going back.

S35 beginning in Bruck, just after knot with S6


it ends soon and becomes road 315


upgrade is u/c (i didn't know it). it will be very nice, 2 long tunnels are being built. this is green pass, construction site is just beside road 315


this is kinda bridge, but it doesn't cross the river Mur, but it goes along and over it (simply, the valley is so narrow)


one of those tunnels u/c




again one section of 2way expressway


the second tunnel u/c






and entering an existing expressway (with motorway standards)




tunnel Mixnitz (680 m), exisdts only in derction Graz, not in opposite direction


130 km/h at so called expressway there are also some 100 km/h sections and everyone keeps it because police is quite active there






approaching knot Deutschffeistritz (S35-A9)


going under A9


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A9




northern Gratkorn tunnel


old black A plates




southern Gratkorn tunnel




approaching Plabutsch tunnel, second longest double-tube tunnel in Europe


entrance


tunnel was quite crowded and after tunnel you have to merge with motorway from Graz centre direction. everybody is taking right lanes and it is not easy to merge
approaching intersection A9-A2






A9 direction Spielfeld


some works near Wildon, they are reconstructing a dike




the only service area between Graz and Spielfeld, Gralla


the last exit befopre border. sun was in bad angle


don't forget vignette in SLO!




juest before the border


border crossing in appropriate thread
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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:07 PM   #909
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Great pics; is that Sentilj on the last pic? And Zlatten, quite a weird name.
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Old August 20th, 2009, 03:11 PM   #910
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And Zlatten, quite a weird name.
Depends on what you're used to. I also find Celovec and Beljak weird names!
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Great pics; is that Sentilj on the last pic? And Zlatten, quite a weird name.
yes, it's written Sentilj. that's why i took that one
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It reminds me of Skofije (instead of Škofije).

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Depends on what you're used to. I also find Celovec and Beljak weird names!
'Beljak' means glair anyway. If it was pronounced [zlatten], it would be ok, but [tslatten] is quite weird IMO.
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I always thought that Beljak had to do something with 'white' (Bjelo/Belo).

Nice pictures. I have been on the A9 when Yugoslavia still existed (and i think that therefore Slowenien is put on the signs where Jugoslawien could be found in those days. the A9 was not extended to the border by then.

Why should they put "Marburg" on it anyway?
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Old August 20th, 2009, 05:37 PM   #914
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I always thought that Beljak had to do something with 'white' (Bjelo/Belo).
Isn't glair white (bel)? (when whisked, that is) "Marburg (an der Drau)" is German for Maribor.
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I know that Marburg is German for Maribor, but why put it on the signs? On the A10/A11 there is no Laibach (but there is/was at the Felbertauerntunnel).
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Old August 21st, 2009, 02:29 AM   #916
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some works near Wildon, they are reconstructing a dike
They are building a high speed rail link under a motorway.
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Originally there was no "Marburg" at those signs. But when Austrian nationalists found out that there are a lot of signs in Slovenia that contains only Slovenian names for Austrian cities they added Marburg.
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Aren't all Slovenian signs for Austrian namens bilangual? (except maybe the Salzburg-sign at the Karawankentunnel)
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Old August 21st, 2009, 08:20 AM   #919
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i was in Bruck an der Mur, i took some photos when i was going back.
I made that route in the opposite direction...

very nice route and a fine alternative to the A2 between graz and wien...
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I made that route in the opposite direction...

very nice route and a fine alternative to the A2 between graz and wien...
it is also for direction Voralpenkreuz. it is 30 km more, but you save the toll for Gleinalm tunnel
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