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Old February 2nd, 2010, 09:46 PM   #1141
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Yes, or to upgrade the Felbertauern route.
Actually that one is very good and doesn't need upgrading for such a light traffic. Felbertauern tunnel lost its transit importance long time ago. A faster connection between Lienz and Italian A22 would be much more useful (from A10 Tauern Autobahn to Lienz road is slowly being modernized) and probably also cheaper. That route has even European designation E66, which means it is pretty important route.

PS. Felbertauern tunnel opened in 1967 and it is not shown on the above map, that means map is even older than 43 years.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 12:23 AM   #1142
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Probably the Alps Convention stands against that? they don't want to create new transit corridors in the mountains.

But I agree that the Pustertal road (Italian part of the E66) would need to be upgrated, though I don't think a full motorway would make much sense.
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Old February 3rd, 2010, 10:20 AM   #1143
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I agree, motorway is not needed. A Felbertauern-style road would be more than enough.
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:01 PM   #1144
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How much do you pay for 1 day of motorways driving?
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Old February 9th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #1145
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Depends. 10 day vignette costs about 8 euro. There are some additional stretches with payment per use (longer tunnels and Brenner).
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Old February 15th, 2010, 02:58 PM   #1146
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What is the meaning of the orange shields above tables (U67 and U12)?
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Old February 15th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #1147
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U = Umleitung (english: bypass)
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Old February 15th, 2010, 03:12 PM   #1148
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Umfahrung or Umleitung?
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Old February 15th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #1149
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It means Umleitung (detour), not Umfahrung - two different things.

If the motorway is closed between two exits, the yellow U signs will guide you to the next on-ramp. Also, when there's an accident ahead, radio traffic reports sometimes advise drivers to exit the motorway and follow e.g. U12. Works the same way as in Germany.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 06:02 PM   #1150
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what is the purpose of contiuning on motorway for umleitung (in this case U67)? shouldn't umleitung happen when motorway is closed (and in the case of U67 it is obvious that motorway is not closed)
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Old February 15th, 2010, 06:49 PM   #1151
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what is the purpose of contiuning on motorway for umleitung (in this case U67)? shouldn't umleitung happen when motorway is closed (and in the case of U67 it is obvious that motorway is not closed)
That's when the motorway is part of the detour. e.g. when the A1 is closed.
Remember, the sign is NOT on the A1, but on the southbound S33 just before it merges with the A1.

Look at a map of St Poelten and everything will be clear.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 07:24 PM   #1152
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a so!! that makes sense
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Old February 15th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #1153
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When looking at St. Pölten map I don't get it. If A1 is closed, then what do they help above Umleitungen? Any example maybe?
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Old February 15th, 2010, 07:51 PM   #1154
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If I understand correctly:

When driving on S33 towards south (A1) and want to go to Vienna via A1, which is temporary closed (or in some sections) you should follow U67 to get to Vienna.

I guess this sign has a sense if not all A1 is closed (so you can reach the 'Knoten S33/A1') or if this sign is before exit St. Pölten Ost.

Otherwise it makes no sense as keber said.
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Old February 15th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #1155
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I guess this sign has a sense if not all A1 is closed (so you can reach the 'Knoten S33/A1') or if this sign is before exit St. Pölten Ost.
If both directions were closed you woulnd't even get to see this sign.

In practice, you follow the U numbers the minute you're diverted off the motorway. If the next exit is also closed, you follow the next U sign, and so forth. It's designed so you don't have to worry about these things.
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If I understand correctly:

When driving on S33 towards south (A1) and want to go to Vienna via A1, which is temporary closed (or in some sections) you should follow U67 to get to Vienna.
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No! In this example, when you follow either one of them (u67 or u12), the sign is the LAST sign before you're back on the motorway you deviated from. You've been following U67 or U12 signs the minute you left the A1 and in the picture above you're just about to get back on it.
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U67 makes sense if A1 is closed for instance between exits St Pölten süd and Knoten St Pölten.
U12 makes sense if A1 is closed between exits Böheimkirchen and Knoten St Pölten
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Old March 25th, 2010, 02:26 PM   #1158
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Just an update - on Google Maps the S1 and A5 are visible.
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Old March 25th, 2010, 10:16 PM   #1159
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Out of curiosity, were there ever any plans for extending the A22 Nordbrücke spur all the way to the S1?
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Old March 27th, 2010, 01:27 AM   #1160
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No..don't think so.
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