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Old March 20th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #1921
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About the accident
You can see the news at the Austrian Television. It is in German.
http://tvthek.orf.at/programs/70023-...eton-erdrueckt
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Old March 21st, 2012, 02:46 PM   #1922
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What a horrible death. Poor guy.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 10:04 AM   #1923
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A trucker was killed in a freak accident on A13 south of Innsbruck at the Schönberg toll plaza where a retaining wall collapsed onto a passing truck.
Strumatic! I feel sad for the victim's family and for the people who had to clean up the mess.
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Old March 22nd, 2012, 01:14 PM   #1924
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According to the Austrian motorway administration the retaining wall in question was inspected in November 2011 and the structural integrity was found to be in spec. However, the higher-than-usual snow load resulted in the hill above A13 being soaked in melt water and the load on the wall exceeded its design load including safety margins, resulting in a breakup at the wall's foot.

The motorway will remain open, however, only one lane will be available southbound at the site of the accident. Significant traffic disruptions are expected during the Easter travel period.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:09 AM   #1925
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In the press release about the construction programme for 2012, ASFiNAG notes;

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Für den Karawankentunnel an der A 11 beabsichtigt die ASFINAG ebenfalls den Neubau einer zweiten Röhre und die Verwendung der Bestandsröhre als Fluchtweg – bis die Verkehrszahlen weitere Ausbauschritte erforderlich machen. Dieses Investitionsvorhaben um 235 Millionen Euro wird auf zwischenstaatlicher Ebene mit Slowenien abgestimmt. Die Kosten werden zwischen Slowenien und Österreich geteilt.
So it appears that the plan for the Karawankentunnel is to construct a new traffic tube and reverse the current traffic tube to an escape tube, while reverting it to a second traffic tube is still possible if traffic volumes warrant it. The cost is € 235 million.

That sounds much better than the earlier plan which provided a new escape tube which could only be reconstructed to a second traffic tube at high cost.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #1926
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Why wouldn't they just open both tubes for traffic? If there's a fire in one tube, you just close the other tube for traffic and let people escape through it.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #1927
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The original (current) tube likely requires large-scale renovation / modernization. It's better to postpone that until traffic volumes really warrant it. The current volumes in the tunnel are barely 7.000 vehicles per day on average. Although I'd rather see two traffic tubes too, it makes sense from an economic point of view.
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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:32 PM   #1928
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What's the traffic and the queues on peak summer days?
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Old March 27th, 2012, 11:33 PM   #1929
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Nothing special really. @Chris: ah, you're right.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #1930
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There is some congestion on a few weekends in the summer, but the reported delays usually do not exceed 20 minutes. The claims that the new Tauern tubes would just move the 3 - 4 hour delay to the Karawankentunnel has not materialized.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 01:11 AM   #1931
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No, apparently most people go to Italy, not Slovenia or Croatia.
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Old March 28th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #1932
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Kärnten (Carinthia) itself is a pretty popular place too.
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Old March 29th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #1933
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ASFiNAG offers free wi-fi on several rest areas:
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Old March 31st, 2012, 06:03 PM   #1934
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A3 near Ebreichsdorf closed due to a sandstorm!



more pics here:

http://noe.orf.at/news/stories/2527198/

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Old March 31st, 2012, 10:27 PM   #1935
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That's the effect of deforestation. Some of the agricultural land needs to be returned to forest.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 10:30 PM   #1936
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Nah, the lands are just plowed. It happens every spring. Sometimes with fatal endings, like a while ago in northern Germany.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 10:45 PM   #1937
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Yes, it happens every year, but it shouldn't. There has been too much deforestation in Europe and, as you point out, it sometimes leads to road fatalities (among other problems). There has been some progress since WWII in reforesting Europe, but more is needed.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 11:35 AM   #1938
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This is called progress. We need a lot of food so we need fields.
A severe drought is currently in these parts of Europe, so small sandstorms on dried land are nothing unusual.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 12:01 PM   #1939
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This is called progress. We need a lot of food so we need fields.
Europe produces far more food than is needed due to massive subsidies. If you subsidize something, you'll get more of it. Most of Europe's excess food production is dumped in Africa, which puts African farmers out of business and leads to cyclical starvation.
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Old April 1st, 2012, 03:47 PM   #1940
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Most of Europe's excess food production is dumped in Africa, which puts African farmers out of business and leads to cyclical starvation.
I often hear that story. However when I was there I never saw any food coming from elsewhere than Africa.
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