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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:34 AM   #61
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The A fell off the photo. It was Arabian Gulf, which would be wrong, because I think it should've been Persian Gulf.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:42 AM   #62
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I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but where did you find that map? In some places (the UAE for instance) it's not called the Persian Gulf but the Arabian Gulf. Just like Swedes call the Baltic Sea the Eastern Sea (Östersjön).
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 10:44 AM   #63
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I bought that map a while ago. I have a scanner now, see if I can make a better picture.
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 11:46 AM   #64
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I really doubt if these kind of roadways with 7 or 8 lanes per direction are really a good solution. I think their actual practical capacity is not much more than 2x5 lanes. I'd rather see a local/express setup here, like 3+4+4+3. It's known that from more than 4 lanes per direction, the capacity per lane decreases when you add more lanes.

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Old January 3rd, 2009, 09:35 AM   #65
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I love the Desert Interchange system. but that might be because I love roundabouts.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 09:39 AM   #66
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Or Dubai could start focusing on TOD (Transit-Oriented Developement)
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 09:43 AM   #67
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clean roads, they look modern!!!
Lol, they look modern. DUH they are modern.
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 10:56 AM   #68
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Are they still building all these high towers and superwide motorways, despite the crisis?
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:59 AM   #69
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The map in the picture is an old edition of the 'Rough Guide Map: Dubai & the United Arab Emirates'. The current one is 2006 (5th edition) and shows the Palms and World etc. It is perhaps the best map available. Another reasonable map is the 'Insight Travel Map: Oman & the UAE', but the country map is a little too small at a scale of 1:1500000.

The maps are not wrong, like Morsue says. Its called the Arabian Gulf by Arabs and Persian Gulf by Iranians and others, but I dont think its contentious. Whereas you'll make no friends in Korea if you refer to the 'East Sea' as the 'Sea of Japan'. Best to show both names I think.

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I think the map you posted is wrong considering the United Arab Emirates Borders the Persian Gulf and i Think your map says Rabian Gulf
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The A fell off the photo. It was Arabian Gulf, which would be wrong, because I think it should've been Persian Gulf.
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I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but where did you find that map? In some places (the UAE for instance) it's not called the Persian Gulf but the Arabian Gulf. Just like Swedes call the Baltic Sea the Eastern Sea (Östersjön).
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 02:11 PM   #70
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I think UAE and Oman have almost the same quality of highways, though UAE signages are much better. UAE should be 2.5X richer than Oman, but when I entered Oman from UAE I didn't spot any difference in wealth on both sides.

And wow finally I could see the roads on the Palm !!
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Old January 4th, 2009, 04:20 AM   #71
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If you refer to the quality of road surface etc, then Oman and UAE are similar. However the UAE motorway network is much more extensive (perhaps due to population/traffic etc). Oman has a single main motorway that runs along the coast and it has very few grade seperated intersections, but large and beautiful roundabouts instead (see some pictures in the Oman Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...6#post30227246). I drove from the UAE to Muscat and these roundabouts are a real pain because you need to slow from 120km/h. Also, for example, the road from Sohar (in Oman) to Burami (or Al Ain) is just a two lane highway, as are the roads south of Muscat, and the road to Khasab from Diba is gravel!

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Old January 4th, 2009, 07:47 AM   #72
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its toll free highway?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 11:07 AM   #73
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If you refer to the quality of road surface etc, then Oman and UAE are similar. However the UAE motorway network is much more extensive (perhaps due to population/traffic etc). Oman has a single main motorway that runs along the coast and it has very few grade seperated intersections, but large and beautiful roundabouts instead (see some pictures in the Oman Thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...6#post30227246). I drove from the UAE to Muscat and these roundabouts are a real pain because you need to slow from 120km/h. Also, for example, the road from Sohar (in Oman) to Burami (or Al Ain) is just a two lane highway, as are the roads south of Muscat, and the road to Khasab from Diba is gravel!

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It is . UAE is more extensive due to population and traffic, but for me it's much enjoyable to drive around in Muscat ( wide highways but few cars ) than say, Dubai/Abu Dhabi ( wide highways but too many cars ) . Salalah is a swift. Hmm yup there are many roundabouts between Dubai and Muscat but it solves one big problem actually: Boredom while driving .

BTW, Omanis are slowly transforming those roundabouts into interchanges- just last year Muscat Seeb Airport was connected by roundabout to the main highway but this year the roundabout was abolished and replaced by interchange and overpass. Again, it's a matter of traffic.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:24 PM   #74
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Highways in the UAE are toll free, except the E11 (Sheikd Zayed Road) close to Dubai. There you must have a vignette (See http://www.salik.ae) and you wil be charged about AED 5 (about 1 Euro) for each passage. The collection is automatic, there are no tollboots.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:37 PM   #75
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What the hell?? For what do you need a 2x8 lane motorway in a country with a population of 4,6 million (density 65 ppl/km^2) and the biggest cities having 1,5 and 0,8 million habitants respectively?

I can not remember a 2x8 lane highway in hole Europe? Is it really nescessary to spoil that much ressources just for playing god in desert?
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Old January 4th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #76
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Playing god at dessert is what you would be doing at the dining table. I'm not sure what this has to do with infrastructure building and relative traffic levels.

Don't forget that Sharjah also has a lot of inhabitants (800.000+) and a lot of those people commute to Dubai. When you include Ajman I guess the metropolitan area of Dubai has more than 2.5 million inhabitants.
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2.5 million inhabitants but few fully grade-separated roads. Nearly all development takes place along the Zayed Road, while there's no other alternative than to take that road, which creates huge rushhour volumes. If hundreds of thousands of people go to work along mostly one corridor, you'll need quite a capacity even if the total metropolitan area is not very large.
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Indeed, the E11 there is very crowded. De road is very wide there, but it still is not enough..
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Playing god at dessert is what you would be doing at the dining table. I'm not sure what this has to do with infrastructure building and relative traffic levels.

Don't forget that Sharjah also has a lot of inhabitants (800.000+) and a lot of those people commute to Dubai. When you include Ajman I guess the metropolitan area of Dubai has more than 2.5 million inhabitants.
In rushhour: Sjarjah to Dubai, it's normal to travel 2 hours
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In rushhour: Sjarjah to Dubai, it's normal to travel 2 hours
It sure takes a while on the E11, however I found an alternative and more scenic route along the Al Mamzar Lagoon area:


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