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Old February 4th, 2016, 10:32 PM   #1721
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If the "train on train" idea does become reality, my guess is that the loading/unloading points will be a new freight yard near the new Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto Station and the conversion of the Shin-Nakaoguni Signal Station tracks into a freight yard. These new "train on train" trainsets could travel as fast as 200 km/h, which will allow H5 trainsets to traverse the Seikan Tunnel at 200 km/h also.
I think JR Freight could study a freight version of Shinkansen trainset to operate in Seikan Tunnel and Hokkaido Shinkansen.

This "Freight Shinkansen" would carries containers between Aomori and Sapporo. Tsugaru Line would rebuilt with dual gauge from Aomori to Tsugaru-Futamata. After, trains would operate in Seikan Tunnel at 180 Km/h. New branches could connect Hokkaido Shinkansen with JR Freight facilities in Hakodate (a new yard in Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto) and Sapporo.
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Old February 6th, 2016, 09:06 AM   #1722
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Post stamp, commemorating upcoming opening of Hokkaido Shinkansen:
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Old February 7th, 2016, 07:15 AM   #1723
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Tommy Lee Jones & Boss Coffee , Hokkaido shinkansen CM



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Old February 7th, 2016, 08:21 AM   #1724
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Old February 24th, 2016, 09:35 AM   #1725
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Seen at jnsforum:

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GoEuro Ranks World’s Best High-Speed Trains; Names Japan as Number 1

NEW YORK, Feb. 23, 2016 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- GoEuro, the two-year-old search engine for comparing and booking rail, coach and flight travel across Europe, has ranked the world’s best high-speed train networks. While it’s no surprise that Asian trains ranked first, second and third, for Japan, South Korea and China, respectively, US travelers might not have guessed that five of the top 10 are European networks.

High-speed rail networks in France, Spain, Germany, Italy and Austria ranked 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th and 9th, respectively. Of the 20 countries in the world in which high-speed trains operate, the U.S. was ranked 19th, beating out only Finland. It’s ironic that the US and Russia, once vying with each other in competition during the Space Race, both have the lowest coverage of their high-speed rail networks, each with less than one percent. An additional 19 countries currently are planning new high-speed rail projects.

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Old February 24th, 2016, 09:21 PM   #1726
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Probably the distance between Shin-Tosu and Takeo-onsen will be cheaper in terms of construction (flat). Don't understand why they are considering the FGT but...

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Nagasaki Shinkansen line project overhaul likely to prevent delays



The troubled development of the state-of-the-art Free Gauge Train (FGT) has led to a radical shake-up of the Nagasaki Shinkansen Line project so that it can be delivered on time.

A panel of members from the ruling political parties to discuss the opening of the high-speed train line is considering dropping plans for the FGT, which would be able to run on both wider Shinkansen rails and narrower tracks of regular lines, in favor of using the “relay method” of running both high-speed and regular trains so that it can open as scheduled in fiscal 2022.

The panel is considering the idea in discussions for final adjustments to the plans, which began on Feb. 23, for the highly anticipated line.

Initial plans were for the FGT, the nation’s first variable gauge railcar, to run on both the Shinkansen rails and JR Kyushu’s regular Nagasaki Main and Sasebo lines, which the new route will be using between Shin-Tosu Station in Tosu, Saga Prefecture, and Takeo Onsen Station in Takeo, also in the prefecture.

However, development of the vehicle is lagging significantly. The transport ministry said in December that opening the new Shinkansen line using the FGT as planned in fiscal 2022 would be very difficult, as efforts to patch up the prototype that was damaged during endurance testing were taking considerable time.

In addition, disagreements between the policies of the prefectural governments of Nagasaki and Saga, both of which will be hosting the new train line, are further complicating matters.

The Kyushu Railway Co. (JR Kyushu) project will link Hakata Station in Fukuoka with Nagasaki Station in Nagasaki by building a new Shinkansen line that joins up with the existing Kyushu Shinkansen Line between Hakata Station and Kagoshima Chuo Station in Kagoshima via the regular rail line.

However, using the mixed-rail method is feared to pose an inconvenience to the passengers, forcing them to change trains at Takeo Onsen Station.

Nagasaki Prefecture was demanding that the line be opened in fiscal 2022, as it had already gone ahead with promoting its tourist attractions on the basis of that time frame.

They showed an understanding of the relay method from early on in the discussions.

Meanwhile, Saga Prefecture was urging the ministry to introduce the FGT even if it meant delaying the opening of the line. As the prefecture is located fairly close to Hakata Station, setting up Shinkansen tracks along the entire route of the Nagasaki Shinkansen Line is not very cost-effective for them, especially considering the extravagant expenses involved in constructing and maintaining such a railway. The local municipality hosting the rail line typically bears one-third of such costs in regional Shinkansen projects.

But introducing the FGT would effectively negate the need for building such a costly route, as parts of the line can be operated by using existing rails in the prefecture.

The central government’s ruling coalition of the Liberal Democratic Party and Komeito set up the panel under the project team for the promotion of the construction of new Shinkansen lines in January and was making adjustments behind the scenes to hear the opinions of the Nagasaki and Saga governors on the new route by Feb. 23.

The Saga prefectural government told the panel that it will consider accepting a route mixing high-speed and regular train lines.

Having received a positive reply on the issue from Saga Prefecture, the panel is now making final adjustments to form the outline of the Nagasaki Shinkansen project that would open by fiscal 2022 using the relay method.

The project will officially be made into a ruling parties’ proposal by March after the panel holds discussions with the ministry on various issues, including ways to avoid putting Saga Prefecture at an economic disadvantage.

The new Shinkansen route is anticipated to shorten the time it takes to connect Hakata and Nagasaki stations, which is currently at just under 2 hours using direct connection via express train.

The ministry plans to continue to development of the FGT and assesses that production models can enter service in fiscal 2025 at the earliest.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 05:34 PM   #1727
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Do I understand this correctly that relay method means isolated services on this isolated Shinkansen? That would trigger the question whether classic express services would run to and would terminate at Takeo-Onsen or whether at least some would still run to Nagasaki nonetheless.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 07:03 PM   #1728
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The ministry plans to continue to development of the FGT and assesses that production models can enter service in fiscal 2025 at the earliest.
This is really confusing. On one hand, there is the Spanish Variable Gauge System from Talgo, currently operating on a high speed train. I just read about it in a thread here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=261

So, why would the Japanese not be able to build a similar system in 9 years?
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Old February 25th, 2016, 07:13 PM   #1729
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And would the relay services start from Hakata or Shin-Tosu? One is (possibly) faster, but the other serves more people more directly.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 07:20 PM   #1730
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Is there viability for a Shinkansen service to Nagasaki? In my opinion, it is better to improve the Kamome limited express service, with a new relay service from Shin-Tosu to Nagasaki using 885 Series tilting trains.

If there is demand for Shinkansen, JR Kyushu could rebuilt Nagasaki Main Line to dual-gauge tracks, like Mini-Shinkansen in Tohoku Region.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 10:23 PM   #1731
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This is really confusing. On one hand, there is the Spanish Variable Gauge System from Talgo, currently operating on a high speed train. I just read about it in a thread here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=261

So, why would the Japanese not be able to build a similar system in 9 years?
The problem lies with the difference in gauges and track layouts. The overall difference between Iberian gauge and standard gauge is fairly small compared to cape gauge and standard gauge, the design have to differ for a difference that is almost twice as wide as in Spain. Also the difference in track layout between the two, slow twisty cape gauge rails and straight fast standard gauge stretches really requires two different bogie designs and wheel profiles to run properly, we know that they have gone through several iterations of bogie designs on the latest FGT test trains, and they haven't reached a design that fulfils the design requirements for a bogie that can run on both types of track without causing problems in maintenance due to extra wear, as well as noise, passenger comfort, etc.
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Old February 26th, 2016, 02:50 AM   #1732
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If there is demand for Shinkansen, JR Kyushu could rebuilt Nagasaki Main Line to dual-gauge tracks, like Mini-Shinkansen in Tohoku Region.
There are no dual gauge tracks in Tohoku. Both the Akita and the Yamagata Shinkansen run on re-gauged tracks.
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Old February 26th, 2016, 11:14 AM   #1733
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There are no dual gauge tracks in Tohoku. Both the Akita and the Yamagata Shinkansen run on re-gauged tracks.
Parts of it is, roughly 55 km in total.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cu_Main_Line
So it could be done if they wanted to.
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Old February 26th, 2016, 02:29 PM   #1734
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Parts of it is, roughly 55 km in total.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cu_Main_Line
So it could be done if they wanted to.
You seem to confuse double gauge tracks with double gauge lines. I have yet to see a single stretch of the former in Japan while there are several part of the Ōu Line that are split into a cape gauge track and a standard gauge track. The Ōu Line, however, it not as densely trafficked as the Nagasaki Mainline.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:59 AM   #1735
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You seem to confuse double gauge tracks with double gauge lines. I have yet to see a single stretch of the former in Japan while there are several part of the Ōu Line that are split into a cape gauge track and a standard gauge track. The Ōu Line, however, it not as densely trafficked as the Nagasaki Mainline.
I didn't read that article close enough, I assumed that the section that had both gauges was double gauged. My bad.
While reading it again then i noticed this bit, in the "Gauge conversion" section:
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and a dual-gauge section between Jinguji and Minejoshikawa (on the Omagari to Akita section)
Meaning that there is still roughly 12 km of dual gauge track on that line, that section is actually double tracked with standard gauge with one of the tracks having been equipped with dual gauge.
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Old February 27th, 2016, 12:20 PM   #1736
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Hokkaido Shinkansen ticket sales

Tickets for the first train bound for Tokyo from Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto Station on the Hokkaido Shinkansen Line, which will open March 26, sold out around 25 seconds after going on sale on Friday.





Public sales started nationwide at 10:00 in the morning. Many fans spent the night at Hakodate Station.

A jointly press release from JR East and JR Hokkaido details the numbers for the first up train (Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto to Tokyo), and the first down trains (from Shin-Aomori, Morioka, Sendai and Tokyo). In the document is included how many time it cost to sell the whole tickets.

- Sell started at 10 o'clock, Friday 26 Feb.

- Up train: Hayabusa number 10 / Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto 06:35 > Tokyo 11:04 / tickets sold in 25 seconds.

- Down train: Hayate number 91 / Shin-Aomori 06:32 > Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto 07:38 / tickets sold in 1 minute 50 seconds.

- Down train: Hayate number 93 / Morioka 06:54 > Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto 09:03 / tickets sold in 10 minutes 50 seconds.

- Down train: Hayabusa number 95 / Sendai 06:40 > Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto 10:07 / tickets sold in 3 minutes 50 seconds.

- Down train: Hayabusa number 1 / Tokyo 06:32 > Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto 10:58 / tickets sold in 30 seconds.

Trains will be 10-car E5 · H5 with 731 seats in total:

Grand Class: 18 seats
Green Class: 55 seats
Standard car: 658 seats
Total: 731 seats

Source: http://www.jreast.co.jp/press/2015/20160221.pdf

In the case of Tohoku-Hokkaido Shinkansen:

上り = Nobori = Up for the trains which destination is Tokyo or runs to the south.
下り = Kudari = Down for trains which destination is Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto or runs to the north.
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Old March 6th, 2016, 02:16 PM   #1737
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Hokkaido Shinkansen depot in Hakodate



Last week was held a press visit to the Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto Rolling Stock depot, the place where the four H5 series Shinkansen are sleeps.

The infrastructure with 360,000 square meters employs everyday 53 persons.

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Source: http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2016/03/02/032/
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Old March 10th, 2016, 08:18 PM   #1738
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Partial cab view from an H5 testing on the Hokkaido Shinkansen (Shin-Hakodate-Hokuto to Shin-Aomori). The video released by JR Hokkaido and JR East was edited and only show the most interesting aspects of the infrastructure (stations, track changes, tunnel entrances, etc.)



But I'm optimistic: Last year weeks before the opening of the Hokuriku Shinkansen, the company released an edited video but days after a completed version was showed.

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Old March 16th, 2016, 03:08 PM   #1739
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Just came back from a business trip to Kanagawa and saw this ad for the Hokkaido Shinkansen



Pictures are of
1. Ainu man, the indigenous people of Hokkaido
2. Hakodate Orthodox Church, built by the Russian consulate in the 19th century
3. Nebuta Matsuri in Aomori.
Glad they are also promoting Aomori (which is the terminus/starting point) and not just Hokkaido. Aomori certainly needs it.
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Old March 18th, 2016, 08:03 AM   #1740
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This is good.

When I visited Hokkaido two years ago, I was most enlightened and intrigued by my trip to the Porotokotan Ainu Museum at Shiraoi. Porotokotan is a bit of a trek from Shin-Hakodate, to say the least, but I can say that out of all the highlights of my short journey to Hokkaido, this was the most memorable.

It is unfortunate that their unique culture is dwindling but I am sure that any more publicity on the Ainu people of Hokkaido and Honshu cannot hurt.
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