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Old September 18th, 2012, 12:34 AM   #2221
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Those ponderous Locomotive+double decker carriages consists really ought to be replaced with a bunch of shorter, quicker DMUs with a higher frequency, surely?
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Old September 18th, 2012, 07:28 AM   #2222
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Unfortunately Seattle is almost comically lacking rail right of way. Those commuter trains and Amtrak trains share the only major route up-down the West Coast, which is used primarily for freight. Getting even what they have now required massive hoops to be jumped through, like new sidings, grade separations, etc. Adding more runs is extraordinarily expensive and would take a lot of time.
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Old September 18th, 2012, 01:02 PM   #2223
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There are many different services are availalble in the world for the public transport. Train services, bus services, Airlines services, Taxy services and my more. It really very important service for the public to transport one place to another place.
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Old September 19th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #2224
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Unfortunately Seattle is almost comically lacking rail right of way. Those commuter trains and Amtrak trains share the only major route up-down the West Coast, which is used primarily for freight. Getting even what they have now required massive hoops to be jumped through, like new sidings, grade separations, etc. Adding more runs is extraordinarily expensive and would take a lot of time.
Unfortunately that is pretty much the case in most places in the USA. Seattle has/is building a great network in spite of this. At least that one main line was already running pretty much in the heart of the city, that way new ROW in the urban area did not need to be built overall.

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Old September 19th, 2012, 09:57 PM   #2225
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Aside from cities on peninsulas, I'd say we're behind the majority in terms of existing rail ROWs. Just guessing. But anything older east of the Miss Hippy generally has a lot of existing rail.
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Old September 19th, 2012, 10:53 PM   #2226
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You used to have electrified intercity service there, once upon a time...
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Old September 19th, 2012, 10:59 PM   #2227
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Aside from cities on peninsulas, I'd say we're behind the majority in terms of existing rail ROWs. Just guessing. But anything older east of the Miss Hippy generally has a lot of existing rail.
But remember that existing rail does not equate to a ready ROW if the rail company does not want to let you use it. For example, here in Tampa there is a CSX rail line that runs along an almost perfect corridor from the north of the city through the DT core. So, if Tampa could buy that 50 miles of ROW or rail then they culd have a great line....but CSX refuses to sell part of the line - they will only sell the whole thing at an arm and a leg rate. The same goes for their E/W line through Tampa. This is in spite of these lines only having 1 freight a day, sometimes none. They will not let the transit agency use the line either, they must buy it or forget about it.

Because of this Tampa only has one option - build rail along the interstate corridors. Of course our referendum failed so that is not happening, but that was the only realistic option.

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Old September 20th, 2012, 02:01 PM   #2228
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CSX has a duty to its shareholders. Now that you mention it, selling Tampa ROW for an arm and a leg would lead to a shareholder derivative action. They would need to sell it for two arms and two legs to meet their fiduciary duties.
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Old September 20th, 2012, 02:43 PM   #2229
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CSX has a duty to its shareholders. Now that you mention it, selling Tampa ROW for an arm and a leg would lead to a shareholder derivative action. They would need to sell it for two arms and two legs to meet their fiduciary duties.
True to an extent. I am not on this thread to debate the merits for or against a public company selling ROW.

All I meant is to point out that a rail line being present does not equate to a ready to use ROW.

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Old September 20th, 2012, 07:59 PM   #2230
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Decades after track removal, ROWs still appear on Montreal area maps, built over (redeveloped) or not.
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Construction that began last April continues on the 2.5-mile First Hill Streetcar that will connect the vibrant neighborhoods and employment centers of Capitol Hill, the International District and Pioneer Square. The City of Seattle is building the First Hill Streetcar in partnership with Sound Transit. Service is expected to begin in spring 2014.
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Old March 10th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #2232
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Walk this way by SoundTransit, on Flickr

The City of Lakewood’s pedestrian bridge at Lakewood Station will serve people in neighborhoods to the west of the station with safer, more direct access to Sounder, ST Express and Pierce Transit services. Sound Transit helped fund this project, designed by KPFF and being built by Pease Construction. The bridge will open in late spring.
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I'm assuming the old railroad that runs to the east through Redmond and Bellevue would be strongly NIMBY'd if it were reactivated?
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Workers on the University Link light rail project take a breather in the final wash down of the northbound tunnel. Work on U-link is progressing well, with service scheduled to begin in 2016.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:18 PM   #2235
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How long is this extension going to be?
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #2236
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About 3.15-miles (5.07 kilometers) long.

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Old March 20th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #2237
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I find it bizarre, as well as stupid, that it goes thru such a large urban area but doesn't have a stop in it. Are they "roughing in" any stations between Capitol Hill and U.Wash?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 07:08 AM   #2238
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I find it bizarre, as well as stupid, that it goes thru such a large urban area but doesn't have a stop in it. Are they "roughing in" any stations between Capitol Hill and U.Wash?
By the time it has gotten far enough away from the Capitol Hill Station, as the route is laid out now, the tunnel is already in single family neighborhoods. The area east of Volunteer Park is not urban. And then it also is very far underground by the time it reaches Interlaken Park, around 300 feet if I remember correctly. There could be a station at Montlake, but by then, the University Station is too close. It makes more sense to locate the station near the Medical Center, the largest draw of employment in the area. The only other place that would make a bit of sense would be on 23rd, but then the alignment of the Capitol Hill Station would have to change. I'm sure economic and engineering considerations precluded this route. And the tunnels are already dug, so it doesn't make any sense to even consider an alternative.
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Ideal would be a station around the bottom of the curve below Capitol Hill station, and another a couple blocks north, in lieu of the one station. But no, there's not much reason for another station before the UW. It's not just single family, but also, a large ravine system, a big park, etc. The freeway interchange, with it's large bus volume, would be the main reason.
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