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Old March 30th, 2016, 12:36 AM   #2601
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Whats with the Weird Chrome like skin on the front of the train?
Special wrap celebrating the new extension. Two trains with wraps for each station "Capitol Hill Station now open!" with the Step Up slogan over the articulated section.

They look really good in person, but are a pain to capture on camera. Looked really nice under the blue lights on opening day.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 08:20 PM   #2602
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42 percent of new arrivals in Seattle are opting to take buses, the highest increase among U.S. cities:

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...f-any-us-city/
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Old April 12th, 2016, 08:45 AM   #2603
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No, 42% of the net increase is taking buses (not including the increase taking rail, walking, etc.). We don't know how the new arrivals act.
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Old April 12th, 2016, 06:56 PM   #2604
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Lynnwood Link design contractor selected
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USA: Sound Transit approved the final design contract for the Lynnwood Link light rail extension in Seattle on April 11. The $73·7m contract is to be awarded to the HNTB Jacobs Trusted Design Partners joint venture.

The 13·6 km route from Northgate to Lynnwood would form a northern extension of the Northgate Link, which is under construction and scheduled to open in 2021. There would be four stops with around 1 500 park-and-ride spaces. Ridership is estimated to be 63 000 to 74 000 passengers per weekday by 2035

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Old April 12th, 2016, 07:18 PM   #2605
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CAVEAT: Excuse the poor quality of some of the pix. I was rushed at times. Some motion photos are fuzzy. And the subterranean lighting was not optimal for my less-than expensive camera. With that, here are some opening day pictures.
--"deboard" trains? Couldn't they just say "exit train"?
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Old April 13th, 2016, 07:20 PM   #2606
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--"deboard" trains? Couldn't they just say "exit train"?
"Deboard" sounds fancier.
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Old April 16th, 2016, 03:43 AM   #2607
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Angle Lake, next station south from Sea-Tac, "on track" for opening later this year.







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Old April 16th, 2016, 04:16 AM   #2608
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Whats the projected ridership for the extension?
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Old April 16th, 2016, 05:03 AM   #2609
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Whats the projected ridership for the extension?
5,400 daily riders by 2018. Seems a bit high to me, given that the only station on this extension doesn't have all that much going to it (parking garage, no bus feeders, only adjacent landmark is a prison).
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Old April 18th, 2016, 04:41 AM   #2610
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Some moar recent Seattle Public Transit photos from Peter Ehrlich

Seattle Streetcars


SEATTLE--402 at Broadway/E. Marion OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--402 at Broadway/E. Union IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--402 at Occidental/Jackson
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--404 at Broadway/E. Pike IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--404 (OB), 406 at S. Jackson/2nd Av Ext
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--404 appr Broadway/E. Union OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--405 at Broadway/Denny
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--406 at Broadway/E. Pike OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--Overhead Wirework at Broadway/Madison
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--302 at Terry/Mercer OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr

Trolley Buses


SEATTLE--4505 at E. Pine/Broadway NB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--4508 at S. Jackson/6th Ave. S. NB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--4353 at 12th Avenue S. Bridge SB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr

Commuter Rail


SEATTLE--Sounder 923 passing under LINK IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr

Light Rail


SEATTLE--128 in Sound Transit Shops
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SEATTLE--118 at Capitol Hill Station OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--105 at Univ. of Washington Station
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--118 arr Capitol Hill Station IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--128 in Sound Transit Shop, on lift
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--134/150 lv Beacon Hill Tunnel IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--158/131 appr Beacon Hill Tunnel OB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr


SEATTLE--150/134 at Sound Transit LINK Yard Junction IB
by Peter Ehrlich, on Flickr
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4th Quarter Ridership numbers for Seattle-Tacoma

Seattle

Seattle / King County Dept of Trp | Light Rail - 1,800 (2015) : -18.96%
Seattle / King County Dept of Trp | Buses - 330,300 (2015) : 2.14% +
Seattle / King County Dept of Trp | Trolley Buses - 69,700 (2015) : -4.63%
Seattle / King County Dept of Trp | Van Pool - 14,400 (2015) : 14.71% +
Seattle / Sound Transit | Commuter Rail - 15,000 (2015) : 8.96% +
Seattle / Sound Transit | Light Rail - 41,000 (2015) : 11.11% +
Seattle / Sound Transit | Buses - 62,000 (2015) : 1.79% +
Seattle / Washington State Ferries - 58,400 (2015) : 2.18% +
Seattle / University of Washington - 8,200 (2015) : -2.19%


Tacoma

Tacoma / Pierce Transit | Buses - 29,000 (2015) : -13.03%
Tacoma / Pierce Transit | Van Pool - 3,000 (2015) : -6.29%


Bremerton

Bremerton / Kitsap Transit | Buses - 7,200 (2015) : -3.93%
Bremerton / Kitsap Transit | Ferries - 1,700 (2015) : 9.37%


Olympia

Olympia / Intercity Transit | Buses - 14,600 (2015) : -7.46%

Everett

Everett / Everett Transit System | Buses - 6,400 (2015) : -2.45%
Everett / Everett Transit System | Direct Response - 4,000 (2015) : -3.70%
Everett / Snohomish County PTBA | Buses - 31,700 (2015) : 2.78%
Everett / Snohomish County PTBA | Van Pool - 3,400 (2015) : -0.64%
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Old April 24th, 2016, 12:29 AM   #2612
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I put up a fact (and picture) about the Community Transit Double Talls on the front page of Wikipedia today:

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Seattle East Link groundbreaking
25 Apr 2016



USA: A groundbreaking ceremony in Bellvue on April 22 marked the start of construction of Sound Transit’s East Link light rail line between Seattle and Redmond.

The 22·5 km line will branch off the existing light rail line at International District/Chinatown and run east towards Mercer Island, Bellvue and Redmond. Services will cross Lake Washington on median strips on the I-90 motorway, and a 0·5 km tunnel will be excavated under central Bellvue. There will be 10 stops

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Old April 26th, 2016, 07:38 AM   #2614
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The Seattle Transit Blog write-up is so much better, in my totally non-biased opinion.

http://seattletransitblog.com/2016/0...-construction/
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Old April 29th, 2016, 06:05 PM   #2615
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Sounder Tacoma - Lakewood commuter rail is rush hour only train service, with maybe highest ridership in the world. What is the problem to implement full time service?

What is the problem to implement some direct north-south commuter trains?

Why there is no another train station in downtown area? North-south rail is very close to north side of CBD.

Seattle have hourglass form, and it was expected to have expensive high capacity underground rail in downtown, but it was expected to follow this form, and implement branches southwest and northwest from downtown. I don't understand idea to make Everette to Tacoma light rail, instead of higher integration of regional rail in metropolitan area transit network, and increase the density of light rail in up to 13 miles (20 km) from CBD.
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Sounder Tacoma - Lakewood commuter rail is rush hour only train service, with maybe highest ridership in the world. What is the problem to implement full time service?

What is the problem to implement some direct north-south commuter trains?

Why there is no another train station in downtown area? North-south rail is very close to north side of CBD.

Seattle have hourglass form, and it was expected to have expensive high capacity underground rail in downtown, but it was expected to follow this form, and implement branches southwest and northwest from downtown. I don't understand idea to make Everette to Tacoma light rail, instead of higher integration of regional rail in metropolitan area transit network, and increase the density of light rail in up to 13 miles (20 km) from CBD.
I doubt Sounder South, as good as it is, has the highest ridership among any category it belongs to.

There is reverse-direction service during peak, though, which doesn't make it fully rush-only by some definition.

As for expanding into all-day service, Sound Transit does not own the tracks used by the trains and has to negotiate with BNSF for timeslots, and they prioritize their freight shipments over passenger rail.

There is only one station in downtown because the tunnel used by North Line trains is a century old and has no room for renovation. Besides that, there's no appropriate place to turnback, unless BNSF sold off some land in their Interbay yard to build a new facility.

As for light rail spreading out further into the suburbs rather than the city, it's all about politics. It's a regional agency with regional goals because of regional politics and regional politicians on its regional board. The suburbs have been waiting patiently for light rail and thus will need to have a train to be satisfied; Sounder isn't quite enough since it's not a one-seat ride to the airport or other areas like the suburbs desire.
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50,000 by 2030.
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I doubt Sounder South, as good as it is, has the highest ridership among any category it belongs to.

There is reverse-direction service during peak, though, which doesn't make it fully rush-only by some definition.

As for expanding into all-day service, Sound Transit does not own the tracks used by the trains and has to negotiate with BNSF for timeslots, and they prioritize their freight shipments over passenger rail.
It is possible to build transit only third track Settle - Tacoma, and it could be cost-effective. The corridor is dense populated, and expensive rolling stocks are underused. One of freight tracks could be used in rush hour only. With few sidings, it would be possible to have 30 min headway in non-peak hours.
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For full day service, yard is needless, just one additional track 300 m (1000 feet) long somewhere in Interbay. Second downtown station could be on north exit of the tunnel. If there is a capacity problem, some trains in rush hours could go there, some not.
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As for light rail spreading out further into the suburbs rather than the city, it's all about politics. It's a regional agency with regional goals because of regional politics and regional politicians on its regional board. The suburbs have been waiting patiently for light rail and thus will need to have a train to be satisfied; Sounder isn't quite enough since it's not a one-seat ride to the airport or other areas like the suburbs desire.
On southside, it is stupid that light rail and commuter rail just cross each other, without a interchange station. Good transit system has more interchange stations outside downtown, not only light and commuter (regional) rail, also with bus lines. For the beginning, it would be good to have frequent bus line (at least 15 min headway) Des Moines, SeaTac, Tukwilla Station, Renton.

Seattle - Tacoma Regional rail with all day 30 min headway is possible to have in only 2-3 years for very little part of money needed for light rail. Another benefit is possibility to implement rapid service in rush hours, with Seattle - Tacoma travel time only 30-40 minutes.
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It is possible to build transit only third track Settle - Tacoma, and it could be cost-effective. The corridor is dense populated, and expensive rolling stocks are underused. One of freight tracks could be used in rush hour only. With few sidings, it would be possible to have 30 min headway in non-peak hours.
If only it were that easy. The tracks are all privately-owned and even getting to this level of service we have now has been an absolute pain-in-the-ass. Sound Transit overpaid a lot to BNSF to get rights in the first place and is still on the hook for additional payments for each added run. We're still absolutely at their whim and it's unlikely that they would sell the only north-south railway between the Cascades and the Pacific for a small-town transit system.

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For full day service, yard is needless, just one additional track 300 m (1000 feet) long somewhere in Interbay. Second downtown station could be on north exit of the tunnel. If there is a capacity problem, some trains in rush hours could go there, some not.
If a second station was built at the north end of the tunnel, then it would cost far too much to be worth it. It'd be under Pike Place Market (a historic market that has a lot of political power; also a major tourist trap that can't be closed easily) and would have half of its walkshed restricted by open water.

Not to mention that tunnel is 100 years old and lacks any modern safety features. The current plan if a freight train hauling oil tankers happens to derail in the tunnel is to seal it off and let the fire burn. If only we could rebuild it! (and building a station would probably cascade into rebuilding the tunnel anyhow...)

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On southside, it is stupid that light rail and commuter rail just cross each other, without a interchange station. Good transit system has more interchange stations outside downtown, not only light and commuter (regional) rail, also with bus lines. For the beginning, it would be good to have frequent bus line (at least 15 min headway) Des Moines, SeaTac, Tukwilla Station, Renton.
The interchange station was supposed to be built (Boeing Access Road Station), but the plug was pulled after ridership projections didn't justify the cost. And with Boeing Field not having commercial service, there's barely any reason to build a station there.

I should mention that there's a proposal to build a light rail station there, but the Sounder platform was removed because the cost didn't pan out.

There is a frequent bus route between Tukwila's light rail and commuter rail stations, as well as Burien and Renton (Des Moines and SeaTac are way too out of the way for a direct connection to be reliable): the RapidRide F Line. It isn't performing so well and is kind of a wash because of how screwy the route is: http://metro.kingcounty.gov/maps/rou...016/m676_0.jpg

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Nope. The negotiations themselves (with BNSF AND UPRR, what a nightmare) would take 3+ years, finding funds for it would take a decade, and construction of necessary infrastructure an additional 5 years.

It's easy to fly in here and suggest that we do this and that and that the solution would be so simple, but it isn't. Our transit system here in Seattle has a lot of special conditions that are imposed on it and there's a lot of political maneuvering (compromises, promises, careful PR management, etc.) that has to be done to get anywhere.
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