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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:28 AM   #2721
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*of new light rail.

Total will be 116 miles and 70 stations when you include ST1 and ST2.
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Old November 12th, 2016, 06:55 AM   #2722
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I love how underhanded the Seattle times is being "post-election switch from an elevated line to a tunnel" or "A community-requested tunnel under Salmon Bay might add $450 million to the cost, compared to the Ballard drawbridge in ST3’s budget."
Sound Transit never expressed exact alignment or construction design in their Expansion proposal.
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Old December 7th, 2016, 07:58 AM   #2723
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Light rail ridership is off the charts...

https://www.seattletransitblog.com/2...ld/#more-85109
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Old December 7th, 2016, 02:47 PM   #2724
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HURRY!

SOMEBODY GET NEW CHARTS!!!
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Old December 7th, 2016, 11:22 PM   #2725
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Ridership at about 68,000 ppl/day on a 20 mile line.

North Link (UW -> Northgate) is projected to bump that up to 110,000 ppl/day on a 24 mile line

Sound Transit 2 just starting construction (Northgate -> Lynnwood, Sea-Tac -> Federal Way, Seattle -> Bellevue/Redmond) is projected to bump that up to 280,000 ppl/day by 2030 on a 51 mile two line system

Sound Transit 3 approved this election (Everettt -> Tacoma, Ballard -> DT Seattle -> West Seattle, Kirkland -> Issaquah) is projected to bump that to 415,000ppl/day to 515,000 ppl/day by 2040 on a 113 mile four line system.

Exciting transit times in Seattle.
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Old December 28th, 2016, 01:40 AM   #2726
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"Tacoma Link ridership heads downhill"

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Old December 30th, 2016, 11:14 PM   #2727
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"First Avenue streetcar work starts in January, linking South Lake Union and First Hill"

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-...ts-in-january/

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Old December 31st, 2016, 02:57 AM   #2728
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Seattle showing the country how it's supposed to be done.
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Old December 31st, 2016, 03:03 AM   #2729
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Seattle showing the country how it's supposed to be done.
Well, our most recent streetcar (the First Hill line, seen at right/east) hasn't been all that successful due to a lack of transit priority. We managed to add transit priority lanes on the South Lake Union line recently, well after it opened, so here's to one day closing Broadway to cars!
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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:29 AM   #2730
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Can somebody tell me why anyone would take a streetcar from Capitol Hill to just about anywhere downtown when taking the Link is probably 10 times faster?
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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:56 AM   #2731
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City Center Connector

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Old December 31st, 2016, 09:02 AM   #2732
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Can somebody tell me why anyone would take a streetcar from Capitol Hill to just about anywhere downtown when taking the Link is probably 10 times faster?
Fear of the underground?

But seriously, I think the target markets are ferry riders headed to SLU or First Hill and tourists who aren't adventurous enough to figure out the bus system.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 12:23 AM   #2733
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Then it's no wonder that leg of the streetcar is performing poorly. Really dumb idea to put a streetcar route where there's already a rapid transit route serving the same origin/destination pair.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 02:13 AM   #2734
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Your are correct in that the First Hill streetcar in effect starts at a Link station [Chinatown/International District] and ends at a Link station [Capitol Hill], but if I might play devil's advocate: The streetcar does serve Little Saigon, Yesler Terrace and the large hospitals atop First Hill. Someone--and there may not be too many--but someone from Little Saigon or Yesler Terrace would take the streetcar to/from the hospital district or Chinatown/The ID. And though Sounder Bruce was probably joking, there are some living closer to those Link stations who wouldn't feel comfortable descending underground and fussing with ticket machines. All of which might not in itself justify that particular streetcar route, but what totally does justify it is the fact that in the original Link plan there was to be a First Hill station. Due to geological, geographical and cost issues that station was ultimately deemed unfeasible and, as consolation prize, if you will, a streetcar line was promised--and subsequently built--instead, thus linking First Hill with both the Capitol Hill and Chinatown/International District Link stations.
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Old January 1st, 2017, 06:28 AM   #2735
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Then they should have done something like this: Instead of going north on Broadway, they should have continued it east along Jackson, then gone north on 23rd for a while, and maybe eventually gone NE up Madison to Madison Park. Or something like that. That way you'd still get a lot of the ID, but you'd also hit a lot of areas that aren't near a Link station.

The hospitals are already so close to downtown I'm not sure why you would need a streetcar. If some people don't want to walk, there are always buses.
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But the First Hill neighborhood wanted something, so they had to be included in the route.

The best way to serve First Hill, in my opinion, is a rapid bus line on Boren. That street needs all-day service. Maybe extending the 7 up there would be better than keeping it downtown.
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Old January 5th, 2017, 01:28 AM   #2737
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Seattle Poised for Another Light-Rail Expansion

Feds Agree to Give Sound Transit $2 Billion in Loans
Sound Transit, the Puget Sound region’s metropolitan transit agency, has faced criticism over the years for ballooning costs and delays in building a light-rail rapid transit system serving Seattle, Tacoma, Everett, Bellevue and environs[...]
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Seattle’s First Hill Streetcar Expansion Put On Hold

Owing to questions about the value of the project, Seattle’s proposed First Hill Streetcar expansion has been put on ice by the Seattle Department of Transportation, according to recent reports[...]
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Just to clarify, the above post refers to the Broadway extension which would expand the First Hill line a few blocks to the north. Any such ultimate decision on that does not affect the planned Center City Connector line, joining the two current separated lines (First Hill and South Lake Union), as discussed farther above.
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"Light rail ridership surges ahead in November"

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