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Old May 2nd, 2007, 11:16 PM   #601
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I know that. We can do very simple for less. For example, some train stations across the nation I went to usually have ugly tiles on the wall. Beautiful wooden wall or stainless steel wall costs much cheaper than tiles. We can do something very simple that makes it look very expensive but it is not really expensive as anyone would think.

I'm certainly sure that station I showed isn't that expensive as it looks!
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 02:33 PM   #602
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I know that. We can do very simple for less. For example, some train stations across the nation I went to usually have ugly tiles on the wall. Beautiful wooden wall or stainless steel wall costs much cheaper than tiles. We can do something very simple that makes it look very expensive but it is not really expensive as anyone would think.

I'm certainly sure that station I showed isn't that expensive as it looks!
I got it. I didn't think of that, lol. I'm sure there's some materials that can be cheaper than the ulgy looking materials. Sometimes you gotta be creative, that's all.
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Old May 3rd, 2007, 07:44 PM   #603
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I think a lot of the ugly choices are made due to ease of maintenance.
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Old May 4th, 2007, 01:27 AM   #604
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Very true. Sighs.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 06:48 AM   #605
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hey, at least you dont have "art" of people looking like they are jumping to their deaths with serial numbers on their shirts like the LA Red Line civic center station. Its disturbing.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 07:22 AM   #606
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Good grief that would be!

So here's the latest pic related to the light rail construction. Sort of periphery activity, but nonetheless related. The intersection of Ninth and Pine, which is right over where the pine street stub tunnel is being built. They're almost done with that:



Sound Transit also put up some more animations depicting light rail on the east side. So they're kinda crappy. Especially the Bellevue ones, but it's something. I guess.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #607
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Interesting videos... I like elevated one better... More style than tunnel one. I don't really like the idea to build a floating light rail bridge at all. I'm no fan of floating bridges in the general. I like to see light rail suspension bridge to get built across Lake Washington. I doubt it will get built because of engeering and financial issues.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 12:14 PM   #608
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I think putting the light rail on the floating bridge will work out perfectly! I've always loved the floating bridges because of the fantastic views out onto the lake. It is my understanding that the light rail line will run on what are currently express lanes, so we don't have to worry about building a new bridge.
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Old May 5th, 2007, 07:55 PM   #609
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Aye, having the majority of the infrastructure there already is a huge boon to getting the line built faster and cheaper. There is always the danger an earthquake or storm could damage the bridge irrevocably. Floating bridges are more prone to such disasters.

A suspension bridge doesn't seem feasible in my mind because of the huge investment in land on either side of the bridge for the anchoring and the run up to the bridge. This would displace too many people wherever the bridge is built. I'm not an engineer, so I can't say for sure if the engineering of a suspension bridge across the lake is possible, but I'd say not for the above reason as well as being incredibly difficult to build across the lake. If anybody knows or is an engineer out there, I'd love to hear the specifics of this issue.

A tunnel would be more feasible, I think, but barely. I think the lake is fairly deep. So, the easiest, cheapest way is to use the existing floating bridge.
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That is too bad we are living in one of most complicated geography (even its one of most beautiful area in the world!) and brings more engeering challenges for us.
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I took a few minutes to take some pictures of the Tukwila Station and The Airport link today. Here are some highlights:


Tukwila Station as seen from the International Blvd. to the Northwest


Tukwila Station from International Blvd. overpass of 518 to the Southwest


A closeup of some of the work going on on the North face of the station. Also notice the elevated trackway heading down the hill toward I-5


Looking in through a newly installed glass wall


Columns are now in place for the airport link. Tukwila Station is just out of the frame to the right.
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I can't see the pictures.
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Try it again, I think I've got them fixed now...
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Old May 7th, 2007, 04:30 AM   #614
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WOW! Much better! I love the design of that station! Very impressive!
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I really like the design as well. What you don't see in the picture is the huge lot it is on, which will allow for lots of parking.
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I'm not big fan of parking lots but this time it should encourage people to park and ride light rail instead driving on I-5 and being stuck in the traffics. BART in Bay Area has similar situation with parking lots in the suburbs to encourage people to ride it to downtown San Fransisco.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 05:50 AM   #617
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In the case of the Tukwila station, parking is going to really help this station be successful. I'll bet most of the riders that will use this station are going to come from the South on 99 or from the West on 518. The station is situated perfectly to allow them to drop their cars here before heading into downtown.
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Old May 7th, 2007, 05:59 AM   #618
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Exactly! I like to see streetcar or better bus route to add near that station and can go to Southcenter Mall or shopping area near that mall to increase the popularity of this station and give people more reasons to use this system just to get around.
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Old May 8th, 2007, 04:30 AM   #619
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I'm certain the bus routes will be reworked to take the light rail into account. It'd be foolish not to.

Excellent pictures JasonB52! If I cared to drive up towards the construction areas, I'd take some too. It's nice to see some pics from folks in the area.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 12:28 AM   #620
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The boring machine broke through the east portal today. We're half way done with the tunneling now (not counting station finishing and machine moving). Here's the news release.
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