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Old September 28th, 2007, 04:44 AM   #1201
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Ahhh...thanks! I never thought of that.
I've always heard it referred to as the moving sidewalk, but I guess either works.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 05:03 AM   #1202
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Should be doing homework, but reading the document. It quotes "When all proposed ST2 projects rae completed, half of all work trips to downtown Seattle are expected to be on transit. Wow they have pretty high expectations...
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Old September 28th, 2007, 05:11 AM   #1203
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I wonder if they will equip it with a special moving floor that speeds up people who can't walk fast or far to the terminal from the light rail station. That type of stuff is common in some airports around the US. I forget what it is called.
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I am assuming that with a project of this magnitude and impact in the future, that they have already included that in their plans for the station from the get-go.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 08:36 AM   #1204
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Should be doing homework, but reading the document. It quotes "When all proposed ST2 projects rae completed, half of all work trips to downtown Seattle are expected to be on transit. Wow they have pretty high expectations...
Depending on your definition of "Downtown", that's not far from the case already. Based on a wider definition of Downtown, I think the number is around 40%, but for workers right in the Financial or Retail Districts it's higher.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 09:07 AM   #1205
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Depending on your definition of "Downtown", that's not far from the case already. Based on a wider definition of Downtown, I think the number is around 40%, but for workers right in the Financial or Retail Districts it's higher.
Is 40% for people who live in downtown or people who live outside of downtown?
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Old September 28th, 2007, 06:56 PM   #1206
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40% of Downtown workers use transit to get there, regardless of where they live.

Once you factor in walking, bicycling, carpooling, etc., it's probably under 50% who drive alone. Not horrible but not good enough.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #1207
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Is 40% for people who live in downtown or people who live outside of downtown?
40% who work in downtown.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 09:21 PM   #1208
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I am assuming that with a project of this magnitude and impact in the future, that they have already included that in their plans for the station from the get-go.
I seriously doubt it. Sea-Tac doesn't have any moving walkways that I'm aware of, in fact. I'm sure it would be reasonable to do that in the future.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 02:20 AM   #1209
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Probably will not include moving walkways because they haven't mentioned about that. Walking from the station to the enterance of the airport terminal takes about 1/4 of a mile from what it said, I think. Correct me if I'm wrong. That should give some people good exercise.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 03:50 AM   #1210
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yeah i think it's probably not planned currently, but it's a damn good idea!
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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:37 AM   #1211
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40% of Downtown workers use transit to get there, regardless of where they live.

Once you factor in walking, bicycling, carpooling, etc., it's probably under 50% who drive alone. Not horrible but not good enough.
Wow, not bad. How does that compare with other cities like New York?
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Old September 29th, 2007, 08:18 AM   #1212
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I seriously doubt it. Sea-Tac doesn't have any moving walkways that I'm aware of, in fact. I'm sure it would be reasonable to do that in the future.
The new terminal has moving walkways. Used them in March when returning from Boston on JetBlue.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 08:41 AM   #1213
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Wow, not bad. How does that compare with other cities like New York?
I think it's something like 25% drive alone in NYC. Something like 54% use transit/commuter rail,
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Old September 29th, 2007, 02:24 PM   #1214
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The new terminal has moving walkways. Used them in March when returning from Boston on JetBlue.
Oh, it does? I didn't know that, wow!
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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:08 PM   #1215
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I love Concourse A. I wish the whole airport was like that!
Moving walkway pic from Flickr:



And I read Port of Seattle's description of the new station and it said "pedestrian bridge." It didn't mention "moving walkway" like it did when describing their new concourse A.

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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:59 PM   #1216
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I love Concourse A. I wish the whole airport was like that!
Moving walkway pic from Flickr:



And I read Port of Seattle's description of the new station and it said "pedestrian bridge." It didn't mention "moving walkway" like it did when describing their new concourse A.
Nice! Yeah, I would have heard about a moving walkway if one was to be installed, anyway. It's possible that there isn't room, but my best guess is that it's just too expensive. There's no competition on this contract because contractors are too busy, so some of the features are already being scaled back.

In my book, this is just another reason to let public agencies do their own construction management again... SNCF just built the TGV Est for $1.3B euro, for example, and you can bet it would have been twice that with private contractors.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #1217
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I think it's something like 25% drive alone in NYC. Something like 54% use transit/commuter rail,
In London I heard 90% don't drive alone, but I don't know where that was from.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:52 AM   #1218
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I went to Sea-Tac yesterday and (WTF) it was a complete mess. Here's the progress of light rail to the airport as witnessed by me:

The guideway has been constructed over SR 518 and onto the northern end of the Airport Expressway, and at S. 170th. Columns have been erected near the station to support the guideway, and the rebar for the station is barely done. But there's not much you can see at night; it's mostly dirt and really scary. I almost got lost since I haven't been to the airport in over 5 months!
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Old September 30th, 2007, 04:57 AM   #1219
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I seriously doubt it. Sea-Tac doesn't have any moving walkways that I'm aware of, in fact. I'm sure it would be reasonable to do that in the future.
Yes Sea-Tac airport does have some at their new Concourse A. I was there last Monday evening and used it.

I agree that Sea-Tac Airport light rail station should add moving walkways direct to the airport. Make it four (two for each direction, one for people who are not in rush and one for people who are in rush)
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Old September 30th, 2007, 08:58 AM   #1220
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Yes Sea-Tac airport does have some at their new Concourse A. I was there last Monday evening and used it.

I agree that Sea-Tac Airport light rail station should add moving walkways direct to the airport. Make it four (two for each direction, one for people who are not in rush and one for people who are in rush)
Or you can have two wider ones, one in each direction and have the people who aren't in a rush stand to the right and people who are rush through the left.
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