ARGENTINA - Stadium and Arena Development News

[CiudadanoDelMundo]

Originally Posted by www.sercan.de

thanks a lot
can you also write the old and new capacities?

You're wellcome.
Capacitites according to wikipedia & Worldstadiums are:
(Boca) Bombonera: 49.000 --> Would be reduced to 36.000 if all-seater.
(River) Monumental: 66.449
(San Lorenzo) Pedro Bidegain: about 44.000
(Vélez) José Amalfitani: 49.540
(Argentinos) Diego Armando Maradona: 24.600

I don't know the other new capacities in case they convert into all-seater.

Originally Posted by Chimaera

Ciudadanodelmundo wrote that all stadiums have to be all-seater from now on, but when I look at the photos from the new Independiente stadium Kazetuner posted, I see nothing but stands with short, low steps for standing... Only on the extreme right of the first picture you can see "seating steps".

Your'e right, the newspaper also said that the all-seater normative is unlikely to be a reality and not all the teams have plans to fulfill it.

[kazetuner]

Originally Posted by Chimaera

Ciudadanodelmundo wrote that all stadiums have to be all-seater from now on, but when I look at the photos from the new Independiente stadium Kazetuner posted, I see nothing but stands with short, low steps for standing... Only on the extreme right of the first picture you can see "seating steps".

the rule is suposed to start next year ( but you never know, this is argentina), and the independiente's stadium was going to open around august of 2008, so i believe their plan was to leave the terraces for half a year and then put seats once every 2 rows in 2009. but they got delayed and i think they will finish like in november...

Originally Posted by lpioe

Kazetuner, I read about two years ago that both 1st division teams in La Plata still use their own stadiums and not Estadio Unico de La Plata. Is this still the case?

actually they have been using the Estadio Unico for more than two years. Gimnasia LP re-opened their stadium in the last match of the season, they changed the wooden stands for concrete one. the stadium is still a dump anyways. And Estudiantes LP, has got a plan for a new stadium, but the design hasnt been aproved yet, the basic idea is a 20.000 seater. here is an old render of the project:



another version

[Chimaera]

How is the atmosphere and viewing experience in Único? It appears to be the most modern stadium in Argentina, but with an odd shape. I wonder what the architect had in mind...

[kazetuner]

Originally Posted by Chimaera

How is the atmosphere and viewing experience in Único? It appears to be the most modern stadium in Argentina, but with an odd shape. I wonder what the architect had in mind...

well, it really depends on who is playing there.
when estudiantes plays there is great. the fans use to carry a lot of flags and smoke flares to the stands, making a great show to see.



when Gimnasia uses the stadium is really nothing special. they're not doing well in the field (actually they never have, the club has 120 years old and has never won a single oficial tournament), so they dont get many people to see the matches.

[kazetuner]

super-update independiente stadium





























http://www.infiernorojo.com/galeria/....php?album=215

[Carrerra]

What is this? I found it on Argentine forum of SSC.







http://www.lagaceta.com.ar/nota/2773...asion_PDF.html

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=599901&page=2

What's the capacity? Will it be really 50K stadia as the render shows? I can't believe seemingly such a small stadia as that can hold as many as 50,000 people. Maybe a majority of stands will consist of terraces? And what's the estimated time of groudbreaking and completion (if available)?

And from the name LA NUEVA CIUDADELA, I guess it's an expansion from Estadio La Ciudadela. Am I right? Or Is it newly built on a different location or reconstructed on the same location?

[CiudadanoDelMundo]

According to the information, it would be an expansion of the existing stadium and it would have a capacity for 500 in suites, 9.250 with seats and 40.000 standing. It would also have an acclimatized swimming pool (for players use I guess), a patisserie and a dance hall (maybe a common room or similar).

[Carrerra]

9,250 seats and 40,000 standings? OMG, this is definately the extreme case I've ever seen in regards of proportions of standing places. Have you ever seen a stadium whose standing capacity is over 4 times bigger than seating capacity? Btw when is the expansion scheduled to start?

[kazetuner]

that project is from San Martín de Tucuman, a really small team that only god knows promoted to first division this season. so i think they were planning to do an expansion of their old stadium, but 50.000.... no way, that's not going to happen... se les subio la gloria a la cabeza

[tazmaneaK]

! Argentina has the most ugly stadiums in the world

[Rohne]

but the loudest

[CiudadanoDelMundo]

Old stadiums but they still rock, I don't know if the atmosphere would be same in new-modern ones but the violence problem could be solved like it hapenned in England

[Carrerra]

What is this? New ground for Chacarita Juniors?



http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=398663

If so, what's the capacity? I found two figures which are assumed to be the capacity of the new stadium on the thread-starting post - 41,800 and 20,844. Which is the figure for capacity? Considering the stadium has two tiers in the rendering, I feel like 41,800 is more convincing than 20,844.....

And, from some photos in the thread it looks like the construction has already been started. Am I right?

[kazetuner]

yeah, that's the project for Chacarita's stadium. but, being Argentina, you never know, it might finish without the roof or something... and it is under "construction", the have put some columns, but the work is very slow. here you have some pics from the argentine forum:

Originally Posted by ((Gonzalo))

i odnt know about the capacity though

[Carrerra]

Originally Posted by kazetuner

i odnt know about the capacity though

La CD del Funebrero envió algunas imágenes en 3D del estadio nuevo (se construirá donde está la actual en Villa Maipú), cuya presentación será mañana a las 21 en el club Almafuerte, San Martín. La capacidad total del estadio será de 41.800 espectadores parados o 20.844 sentados

Above is the remark of the thread-starter. Isn't the capacity mentioned in it?

[kazetuner]

oh, yes. that means 41.800 with terraces or 20.844 all seater

[Carrerra]

I tried using Google Translator to get a rough meaning of the paragraph. It says,

The CD Funebrero sent some 3D images of the new stadium (will be built where the current Maipú Villa), whose presentation will be tomorrow at 21 in the club Almafuerte, St. Maarten. The total capacity of the stadium will be 41,800 or 20,844 spectators seated unemployed

Maybe whoever is seated in there will be fired from his/her job? LOL

[kazetuner]

LOL, i think the translator misunderstood "parados" (standing) with "en paro" (on strike) LOL

[kazetuner]

new update on the independiente stadium, poste in the argentine forum:

Originally Posted by romanito

Fotos de los dias 19 y 26 de julio..


http://www.diablosdeavellaneda.com.a...es-de-america/
http://www.infiernorojo.com/

[Kuvvaci]

what capacity is it?