daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Railways

Railways (Inter)national commuter and freight trains



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old February 14th, 2015, 04:28 PM   #2101
00Zy99
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,980
Likes (Received): 1507

Quote:
Originally Posted by po8crg View Post
I think Indian trains are even bigger still, aren't they?

Sweden has a bigger loading gauge than UIC. And of course the Americans have giant double-decker containers, though there isn't any passenger stock to the full size.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superliner_%28railcar%29

These come pretty close.
00Zy99 no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old February 14th, 2015, 05:26 PM   #2102
sotonsi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,563

Quote:
Originally Posted by stefeni-ts View Post
They are not converting Southampton - Basingstoke, this is a misunderstanding of this project. the SW mainline through Winchester and Eastleigh will remain as it is. What they are doing is OHLE from Spitfire Junction down the Andover Salisbury line as far as the triangular junction then south down the Romsey line then into the docks, I understand this will be a freight only option to improve goods movement u to the Midlands. As far as I understand it the wires will not go as far as Southampton Central from this Western approach.
The plan is still in flux, and the original plan for Basingstoke - Southampton conversion doesn't yet seem to be ruled out, despite the via (nearly) Salisbury diversion route now being proposed for electrification.
sotonsi está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old February 14th, 2015, 05:52 PM   #2103
Manchester77
Registered User
 
Manchester77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3,015
Likes (Received): 807

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimlys1994 View Post
Extension of existing platforms for 12-car trains and reopening of former Eurostar platforms
The Eurostar platforms will have to open first however the two projects cannot work in tandem. The plan is to open th eurostar platforms for windsor line use and then move all service groups down so that platforms 1-4 + throat there can be rebuilt for metro services to be made 10 cars.
__________________

dimlys1994, Swede liked this post
Manchester77 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 14th, 2015, 10:58 PM   #2104
stefeni-ts
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 294
Likes (Received): 41

Quote:
Originally Posted by sotonsi View Post
The plan is still in flux, and the original plan for Basingstoke - Southampton conversion doesn't yet seem to be ruled out, despite the via (nearly) Salisbury diversion route now being proposed for electrification.
I thought they did the bridge works on this route 2 years ago to modify the clearances for the OHLE
stefeni-ts no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2015, 07:46 AM   #2105
annecole
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 12
Likes (Received): 2

thats great...
annecole no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 16th, 2015, 11:18 AM   #2106
Swede
forumer #29
 
Swede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: sol.III.eu.se.08
Posts: 4,215
Likes (Received): 1663

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimlys1994 View Post
Extension of existing platforms for 12-car trains and reopening of former Eurostar platforms
Quote:
Originally Posted by Manchester77 View Post
The Eurostar platforms will have to open first however the two projects cannot work in tandem. The plan is to open th eurostar platforms for windsor line use and then move all service groups down so that platforms 1-4 + throat there can be rebuilt for metro services to be made 10 cars.
So there's no clarity on what the plans are yet? Sounds like the end state's improved platform capacity is clear, but in what order and how it will look like seems to be unclear. Where are the renders and diagrams showing how the works will proceed and how it will all look afterwards?
__________________
Forumers met so far:
Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Ŝróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall

dimlys1994 liked this post
Swede no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2015, 03:56 PM   #2107
Manchester77
Registered User
 
Manchester77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Manchester
Posts: 3,015
Likes (Received): 807

Quote:
Originally Posted by Swede View Post
So there's no clarity on what the plans are yet? Sounds like the end state's improved platform capacity is clear, but in what order and how it will look like seems to be unclear. Where are the renders and diagrams showing how the works will proceed and how it will all look afterwards?
Well there are but I'm not sure how you expect there to renders of it, do you want things like 455s in the next platform set along as opposed to the metro set of platforms? Network rail don't produce renders for everything it's pretty self explanatory what this is and its connection to HLOS works. It'll take a few more months until the international platforms are all open to windsor lines traffic then they can begin at P1-4
Manchester77 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 17th, 2015, 04:27 PM   #2108
Swede
forumer #29
 
Swede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: sol.III.eu.se.08
Posts: 4,215
Likes (Received): 1663

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manchester77 View Post
Well there are but I'm not sure how you expect there to renders of it, do you want things like 455s in the next platform set along as opposed to the metro set of platforms? Network rail don't produce renders for everything it's pretty self explanatory what this is and its connection to HLOS works. It'll take a few more months until the international platforms are all open to windsor lines traffic then they can begin at P1-4
Ah, now I understand. I thought it was part of a bigger change of Waterloo. If it is just about getting the ex-international tracks working as normal domestic tracks then of course there are no renders, no. It would be nice if Network could make animated diagrams showing the planned changes to the track usage, but I have barely seen that for any projects anywhere in the world.
__________________
Forumers met so far:
Huopa, Nightsky, Jo, wolkenkrabber, ThisSideofSteinway, jacksom, New Jack City, LeCom, Ellatur, Jan, Dennis, Ace, Bardamu, AtlanticaC5, Ringil, Dysfunctional, stacey, karakhal, ch1le, Hviid, staff, kjetilab, Ŝróndeimr, queetz, FREKI, sander, Blue Viking, nomels, Mantas, ristov, Rafal_T, khaan, Chilenofuturista, Jonte Myra, safta20, AW, Pas, Jarmo K, IceCheese, Sideshow_Bob, sk, Ingenioren, Ayreonaut, Silver Creations, Hasse78, Svartmetall
Swede no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 18th, 2015, 08:48 AM   #2109
M-NL
Mixed-mode traveller
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,158
Likes (Received): 274

I assume the international platforms were at 760 mm, standard UK platforms are at 915 mm. Are they raising the platforms or lowering the tracks?
__________________
Public transport: Mode of transport that takes to much time to take you from the place you're not currently located, to the place you didn't want to go to, at a time that doesn't really suit you.
M-NL no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 19th, 2015, 10:31 PM   #2110
Nexis
Dark Wolf
 
Nexis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Along the Rails of North Jersey..
Posts: 15,688
Likes (Received): 17044

__________________
My FLICKR Page < 54,100+ Photos of Urban Renewal , Infrastructure , Food and Nature in the Northeastern US
Visit the Reorganized New York City Section
My Photography Website
Visit the New Jersey Section

Ciudad-Eviteco, RuudMaurer liked this post
Nexis no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 20th, 2015, 01:15 PM   #2111
Steve_J_L
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 99
Likes (Received): 20

Quote:
Originally Posted by M-NL View Post
I assume the international platforms were at 760 mm, standard UK platforms are at 915 mm. Are they raising the platforms or lowering the tracks?
I thought that the pre-HS1 platforms were all built to normal UK height, trains not deploying their continental steps. The international platforms at St Pancras and Ebbsfleet were built to 760mm, trains deploying continental steps, bottom step level with platform. French platforms, e.g. Gare Du Nord, are really low, requiring the continental steps to be deployed, and the platform being even lower than the bottom step. Unless anyone knows otherwise?
Steve_J_L no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 21st, 2015, 03:11 AM   #2112
Robi_damian
Registered User
 
Robi_damian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Timisoara
Posts: 2,756
Likes (Received): 9996

A map of rail passenger numbers in the United Kingdom (sans Northern Ireland) shows how skewed rail transport is towards London and the South-East. London and its area of influence probably account for two thirds of all passenger journeys in Great Britain.

__________________
Robi_damian está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old February 21st, 2015, 04:36 AM   #2113
Sopomon
Hideous and malformed
 
Sopomon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 870
Likes (Received): 153

Do you know how they calculate the patronage for long intercity routes that cross many of those borders?
__________________
And he kicked so many rosebushes at her that eventually, Sasuke turned into a log.
Sopomon no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 21st, 2015, 02:37 PM   #2114
Robi_damian
Registered User
 
Robi_damian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Timisoara
Posts: 2,756
Likes (Received): 9996

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sopomon View Post
Do you know how they calculate the patronage for long intercity routes that cross many of those borders?
Good question. No. I presume they use either boarding or alighting passengers as "units" to avoid double counting.
Robi_damian está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old February 22nd, 2015, 02:05 AM   #2115
Nexis
Dark Wolf
 
Nexis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Along the Rails of North Jersey..
Posts: 15,688
Likes (Received): 17044

__________________
My FLICKR Page < 54,100+ Photos of Urban Renewal , Infrastructure , Food and Nature in the Northeastern US
Visit the Reorganized New York City Section
My Photography Website
Visit the New Jersey Section
Nexis no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 26th, 2015, 10:04 AM   #2116
TedStriker
Over Macho Grande
 
TedStriker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London
Posts: 2,517
Likes (Received): 385

G&W acquires Freightliner
TedStriker no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 26th, 2015, 05:41 PM   #2117
ElectroSoldier
Registered User
 
ElectroSoldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,986
Likes (Received): 301

Quote:
Originally Posted by TedStriker View Post
Just another change of which bankers involved.
I cant see much changing for FL, they have a strong position here in the UK.
ElectroSoldier no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 26th, 2015, 08:18 PM   #2118
flierfy
Registered User
 
flierfy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,886
Likes (Received): 296

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sopomon View Post
Do you know how they calculate the patronage for long intercity routes that cross many of those borders?
I suppose one has attributed every journey to the region where the trip started. This method is relatively easy to execute and leads to a fairly accurate result.
__________________
Rippachtal.de

Sopomon liked this post
flierfy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 1st, 2015, 03:22 AM   #2119
Nexis
Dark Wolf
 
Nexis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Along the Rails of North Jersey..
Posts: 15,688
Likes (Received): 17044

__________________
My FLICKR Page < 54,100+ Photos of Urban Renewal , Infrastructure , Food and Nature in the Northeastern US
Visit the Reorganized New York City Section
My Photography Website
Visit the New Jersey Section

437.001, Sopomon, dimlys1994, Bart_LCY liked this post
Nexis no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 1st, 2015, 03:36 PM   #2120
437.001
Sister Greed U
 
437.001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: on the road (Spain)
Posts: 32,012
Likes (Received): 15439


Very rare to have filmed a pantograph strike.
__________________
&&& abcde PMR en Cat ImpTgn Cat2017
Everybody got a job to lose (A.E, Vision Thing, WEA, 1990)
437.001 está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
rail, railways

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium