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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:21 AM   #2761
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More photos from HS1, today Ebbsfleet International

We are starting in St Pancras, view on neighboring Kings Cross:

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Catching service to Margate:

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19 minutes later arrived at Ebbsfleet. Our service departing towards Ashford International where it will switch to classic lines:

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We are on the domestic platforms, on the right platform for London bound Eurostars:

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Southeastern service to London St Pancras:

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Departing towards London:

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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:30 AM   #2762
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Let's exit the station:

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Exit on the northern side of the station. This service is exiting HS1 here in Ebbsfleet and will continue on classic line towards Gravesend, Faverersham an the rest of northern Kent. On elevated platforms 5 and 6 class 395 switches from overhead power (25kV AC) to the third rail (750 DC)

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Station map:

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View from Google:


At the moment Ebbsfleet International is in a bit of middle of nowhere. There are plans for more housing around (there is idea of building Ebbsfleet Garden City) but we'll see
It is convenient park& ride spot since it is close to A2 and M25 and has a few thousands or parking places. Good for catch train to sporting events in Startford Stadium.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebbsfl...ailway_station

Map showing location of Ebbsfleet and journey times:


Now there will be a los of photos from conviniently located pedestrian bridge

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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:37 AM   #2763
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Classic line between Gravesend and Dartford on it Southeastern service to London Charing Cross:

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Class 395 from London exiting tunnel under Thames:

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Entering Ebbsfleet International:

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This train will continue on HS1 towards Ashford:

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This trian is arriving from North Kent and joining HS1 here in Ebbsfleet:

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Departing towards St Pancras:

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I didn't manage to catch high speed services together with classic ones on one photo

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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #2764
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Another class 395 do Londynu:

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And from London:

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Exiting HS1 towards the North Kent Line:

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On platform 6, lowering pantograf and switching from 25kV AC to 750V DC and third rail:

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Old November 27th, 2017, 07:16 PM   #2765
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Change of pace

Local trains in South London:
Class 378 London Overground:

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Non-stopping Class 377 Southern:

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Another non-stopping class 377 Southern, this one London bound:

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Looking in the down direction (out of London):

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Looking in the up direction, towards London Bridge:

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I'm catching this antiquated class 455 to London Bridge:

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Old November 27th, 2017, 07:42 PM   #2766
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Why is Stratford International missing from that map? Have they closed the international platforms?
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Old November 28th, 2017, 12:45 AM   #2767
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Why is Stratford International missing from that map? Have they closed the international platforms?
Those side platforms ( 1 and 4 ) were never used for international service in first place; they were only used during 2012 Olympics for domestic service. They sit unused now.

Only platforms 2 and 3 are in use, Southestern High Speed 395s stop there.
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Old November 28th, 2017, 12:45 AM   #2768
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It's listed as "Stratford", which seems pretty accurate to me. Despite being called Stratford International, the station has never seen an international train call there.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 10:51 AM   #2769
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Railway lines closed in the 1960s could be reopened if they boost the economy, the UK government has said.

Some 4,000 miles of rail routes were closed in the 1960s, mainly in rural areas, known as the Beeching cuts.

The new rail lines could unlock jobs, encourage house building and ease overcrowding, by providing better services for commuters and unlocking housing potential.

More details in the BBC Business article.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:03 PM   #2770
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It's listed as "Stratford", which seems pretty accurate to me. Despite being called Stratford International, the station has never seen an international train call there.
Neither has Birmingham International.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:08 PM   #2771
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Neither has Birmingham International.
Scottish and Welsh Nationalists might disagree with you there
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Old November 29th, 2017, 09:26 PM   #2772
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Neither has Birmingham International.
Birmingham International is named after the adjacent airport, which was known as "Birmingham International Airport" (BHX) at the time of the station's opening (1976). Given the amount of destinations served by BHX I think the "International" moniker is well-earned.
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Old December 6th, 2017, 06:07 PM   #2773
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To 10 UK busiest stations:



Only one outside London
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Old December 7th, 2017, 05:48 PM   #2774
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Not surprising given that the London commuter rail network is so much more extensive than anywhere else and it's commuters that make up the bulk of travellers rather than inter city trips.

France is the same btw, 9 of the 10 busiest stations are in Paris with only Lyon Part-Dieu in addition to those making the top 10.

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Top 10 outside London.

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Old December 28th, 2017, 11:27 AM   #2776
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Lots of work happening around the Xmas blockade at London Bridge:

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Wiring related to Crossrail project:
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Old December 28th, 2017, 10:31 PM   #2778
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Not surprising given that the London commuter rail network is so much more extensive than anywhere else and it's commuters that make up the bulk of travellers rather than inter city trips.

France is the same btw, 9 of the 10 busiest stations are in Paris with only Lyon Part-Dieu in addition to those making the top 10.

I see. Most of those in Paris are even busier than their London counterparts. And Lyon's Part-Dieu is smaller than Birmingham's station. This is clearly a reflection of the geography where London is important to the country but Paris takes that to the extreme. Whereas a more polycentric country like Germany doesn't have any focus in the network at all, except for a vague pentagon of Munich, Berlin, Hamburg, Dusseldorf/Cologne and Frankfurt, but since the country sees also much more major cities around it and there are cities in the middle as well, there are lots of connections between those as well.

And it seems RER passengers of the three SNCF-lines are counted as well?
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Old December 28th, 2017, 11:48 PM   #2779
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One thing that's mad:

Waterloo Station ~100m passengers
Waterloo Underground ~ 100m passengers

Gare du Nord ~200m passengers
Gare du Nord Metro ~ 50m passengers

Even allowing for RER, how the fvck are all those people getting to/from Gare du Nord? Walking? Do they all live/work nearby?
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One thing that's mad:

Waterloo Station ~100m passengers
Waterloo Underground ~ 100m passengers

Gare du Nord ~200m passengers
Gare du Nord Metro ~ 50m passengers

Even allowing for RER, how the fvck are all those people getting to/from Gare du Nord? Walking? Do they all live/work nearby?
Maybe Gare du Nord receive a lot of tourist coming from the Benelux. They stay in hotels nearby Gare du Nord area and just go walk or take the taxi.
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