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Old March 23rd, 2011, 03:35 PM   #801
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So they're not 'specials' or 'charters', they are 'one-offs', which means........exactly the same thing.

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Old March 23rd, 2011, 07:35 PM   #802
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Seriously, someone close this topic of conversation, I keep seeing the UK thread being updated, and eagerly open it..only to find people arguing over whether a train service is a charter or not.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 07:50 AM   #803
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Seriously, someone close this topic of conversation, I keep seeing the UK thread being updated, and eagerly open it..only to find people arguing over whether a train service is a charter or not.
Look at the US High Speed Rail thread as well. Both have the same issue.
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Old March 24th, 2011, 01:36 PM   #804
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If you want information about whats actually going on go to the UK thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
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Old March 24th, 2011, 10:28 PM   #805
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If you want information about whats actually going on go to the UK thread http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=59
Ah, thanks a lot
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Old March 25th, 2011, 04:23 PM   #806
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Shortlist unveiled for British franchises
Thursday, March 24, 2011


BRITAIN'S Department for Transport (DfT) today announced the shortlist of bidders for the new West Coast and Greater Anglia franchises.


The InterCity West Coast franchise will run for 14 years from April 2012 with an option for a one year extension, which means expiry should coincide with the opening of the parallel high-speed line from London to Birmingham in 2026. The bidders include Netherlands Railways' subsidiary Abellio, FirstGroup, Keolis/SNCF, and the current operator Virgin Group Holdings (a joint venture between Virgin and Stagecoach).

Among the bidders that failed to make the shortlist was German Rail (DB) subsidiary Arriva. However, another DB-owned company, Alliance Rail, is planning to launch open access services from London to Leeds, Blackpool, and Carlisle via the West Coast Main Line in 2014.

In total contrast with West Coast, Greater Anglia will run for a period of just 17 months from next February. The DfT says it has opted for a short duration to allow any reforms arising from the McNulty value for money review to be built into the new franchise. However the DfT appears unwilling to allow incumbent operator National Express to continue in the role and it has been excluded from the shortlist.

In a statement, National Express CEO Mr Dean Short said the company is disappointed with the decision and is seeking urgent clarification from the DfT on why it was excluded.

Greater Anglia will be contested by Abellio, Go-ahead, and Stagecoach.
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Old April 15th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #807
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Shift from air to rail heralds ‘turning point’ in how people travel between UK’s main cities

Shift from air to rail heralds ‘turning point’ in how people travel between UK’s main cities

Catching the train could soon be more popular than going by air on the main routes between the UK’s big cities if the shift from flying to the railways continues at its current rate, new figures published today suggest.

According to the first full analysis of the latest industry figures, rail’s market share on the 10 most popular domestic air routes in 2010 grew to 44% - up from 29% in 2006.


If the trend of recent years continues, train companies say that rail’s market share on the 10 most popular domestic air routes combined could rise to above 50% within the next 12 months, heralding a ‘turning point’ in how people travel between the UK’s main cities.


The findings, published today by the Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC) and based on a comparison of rail industry figures with data published by the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), confirm a long-term change in the nation’s travel patterns.


The assessment shows that on these 10 routes, rail has the largest market share on the London to Newcastle and London to Manchester routes and rail’s overall market share on many of the remaining routes has seen increases over the same period, many of them significant.

Between 2006 and 2010, total journeys by rail on these routes rose by 42%, increasing by 2m to just over 7m journeys. Over the same period, the total number of domestic air journeys on those domestic routes fell by 27%, or 3.25m, to around 9m in 2010. Over the last two years, there has been a particular surge in rail travel on these routes, with train journeys rising by 25%.

Tough financial times, the increasing availability of cheap Advance fares - around 800,000 are sold each week - and the fact that train travel is often seen as a ‘greener’ option than flying, have all prompted the shift.


For example:
• For London to Manchester, rail’s market share rose from 69% in 2008 to 79% in 2010


• For Birmingham to Edinburgh, rail’s market share rose from 14% in 2008 to 31% in 2010


• For London to Glasgow, rail’s market share has risen from 12% in 2008 to 20% in 2010


Edward Welsh, Director of Corporate Affairs at ATOC, said: “In what is a highly competitive market between different forms of transport, more and more people are opting to catch a train rather than a plane to travel between the UK’s major cities. If the trend continues, we could be little more than a year away from the crucial turning point when rail becomes more popular than air on the 10 main domestic air routes combined.”


“Whether on business or a day trip, visiting friends and family, or heading to university, passengers are increasingly turning their back on out of town airports and opting instead for city-centre to city-centre travel.

“Improved journey times, more frequent services, good value deals and recognition of its green credentials all mean rail’s popularity has steadily climbed on these routes.”
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Old April 16th, 2011, 11:12 PM   #808
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Here is a little gift for our UK friends. While they took photos of the new Belgrade tram roof, we've got a good view of the new Class 4000 NI Railways Translink trains made by CAF in Zaragoza.

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http://www.beograd.rs/download.php/d...izvodnji-1.jpg

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Old April 16th, 2011, 11:56 PM   #809
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Are these the same trains like the one in this video (at 1:33)?
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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:27 AM   #810
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No, wrong island Thats an Arriva Cross Crountry Class 170.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 01:48 PM   #811
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Old April 19th, 2011, 12:36 PM   #812
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Eurostars with the sparkling pantos are cool!!
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Old April 20th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #813
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New design for the rebuild of London Bridge statioin has been released, cross posted from teh UK section

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Old April 21st, 2011, 12:46 AM   #814
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The station looks cool, but they would have better replacing these stone/tiled walls for glass panels.
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Old April 21st, 2011, 10:55 AM   #815
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They are brick walls and they are structural. The entire station is constructed of brick arches - they can't be replaced without putting the station out of action for long periods of time, which is not acceptable. As its a commuter station the commuters really don't care that much - the main point of this rebuild is to increase the through platforms from 6 to 9, increasing capacity by 50%, which is what the passengers really want.

Cross posted from the UK thread again, here's an excellent diagram of the layout of the station. Its quite a fascinating place, when you come up from the underground station and head towards the terminii main platforms you can go via the vaults, which is a modernised-yet-old-worldy market kind of place with nice cafes and health food markets underneath the main concourse.
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Old April 21st, 2011, 11:02 AM   #816
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This block plan of the vaults illustrates very well the complexity of overlapping construction over the years


The 'tiled' wall you see in the render is the bottom-right of this plan, you can see that they are the ends of arches that go under the entire station and are structural.

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I have a question: why do some (but not all) UK trains have a thin orange stripe painted around the top of the carriage, just below the roof? I assume that it is to indicate the method of power collection, as all pantograph-equipped trains have it, and I have never seen any third-rail units with the stripe. However I have seen various diesel units with it (Virgin and XC Voyagers) too, so I'm not sure?

This shows what I mean (look above the cab windows):http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonedom...7622682665021/
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Hi, most UK trains should have that stripe. It doesn't show type of power collection, it shows the line above which it is dangerous if there is overhead electrification. For that reason even diesel trains have it.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 08:00 AM   #820
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Those Class 90's hauling the MK3 coaches still look good to me, am I imagining it or are there now some of these on the East coast line?
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