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Old March 12th, 2008, 12:13 AM   #261
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In my opinion, London is far from ugly, probably in the top three most beautiful cities on earth. The vibe that London has is something special.

London may be "dirty" but im sure athletes won't refuse to compete in the 2012 olympics because of pollution
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Old March 12th, 2008, 08:36 AM   #262
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after viewing 13 pages of posts with a varrying degree of attention for each post I have a few comments to add to this topic.

I totally support the whole concept of the Green Olympics and the area of the project because East London should be revitalised. Using the Wembley Stadium will be indeed a bad idea for all the reasons mentioned.

But the Logo is simply poor and uncreative. Hands off. The Olympic stadium is also oversimplistic but I admit that I like the whole concept for the 'skin' of the Stadium. I love it! But definately not the stadium. The other stadia look quite modern and slick. I like those!!



Final point which will probably earn me the most amazing argument I've ever since in a discussion: London is dirty, ugly but not really that boring!

Nevertheless I'm sure London will pull through and produce some very good Olympics like the previous two times!
Why would using Wembley Stadium be a bad idea that is the silliest thing i've heard this year.It is the home of football and The olympic football final deserves to be there.You say the logo is poor okay fair game but it's got you talking about it so it's doing it's job who remembers athens logo i don't but people will remember this one.The stadium itself oversimplistic you say,well it's there to do a job for four weeks and then be scaled back to legacy mode London has more stadiums than any other city it certanily doesn't need this and becoming a white elephant.By the way future candidate cities are looking at this concept.i.e check out chicago's 2016 bid.How can you say london is dirty and ugly,what about bejing and the pollution which will affect athletes performances thus decaying the quality of the games,whats your thoughts on that.Your entitled toyour opinion but ask yourself why is london one of the most visited cities of the world and probably the most powerful city on earth(although i think tokyo and new york would have to say something about that)it couldn't be because it's dirty and ugly is it?
And yes London will produce a fantastic olympics probably the greatest.
And yes i love London.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 10:02 AM   #263
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What frightens me about the London 2012 logo is that nu-rave and 80's fluro rebirth is cool now, but will it be in four years?
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Old March 12th, 2008, 02:14 PM   #264
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My only concern is the 'Terrorism' expenditure. The UK and USA will probably remain the terrorists' Number 1 targets if their governments continue with the same policies. And the Olympics are already costing a pretty penny.
Well you have to pay for security, where ever the Olympics are

London will use extensive security package intended to ensure safety at the London Olympics.

The Metropolitan Police's head of special operations, Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, announced £600m worth of measures at a conference in Abu Dhabi.

He said the police are planning to co-ordinate London's half a million existing CCTV cameras, and scan the crowds using state-of-the-art identity recognition techniques.

Further monitoring will be carried out by three helicopters.

Also planned are an automatic vehicle number-plate recognition system and biometric checks for the 40,000 workers who will be employed in constructing the Olympic Park.

The measures will be in place for a 60-day period around the games.

Mr Ghaffur announced that tickets will be linked to the identity of the buyer, and that the holder will be remotely tracked from their home to the venue.

The games are considered a target for potential terrorists.

Organisers are expecting nine million people to watch the games at 33 venues across London. In addition, London can expect 15,000 athletes and 20,000 media workers.

Biometric screens are also being considered for the ninemillion spectators as they enter and every ticket will be tracked.

The site has a natural barrier with the cannals and rivers and the main
stadium is on a island.

other security is expected.

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Old March 12th, 2008, 03:19 PM   #265
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What frightens me about the London 2012 logo is that nu-rave and 80's fluro rebirth is cool now, but will it be in four years?
Good point, although they have said this logo can evolve.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 04:17 PM   #266
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In my opinion, London is far from ugly, probably in the top three most beautiful cities on earth. The vibe that London has is something special.

London may be "dirty" but im sure athletes won't refuse to compete in the 2012 olympics because of pollution
Think you need to get out more!
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Old March 12th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #267
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Think you need to get out more!
Perhaps London isn't one of the top 3 most beautiful cities on earth, but that isn't to say it isn't beautiful in parts. West London and parts of the West End are incredibly beautiful - South Kensington, Notting Hill, Marylebone, Mayfair, Hampstead, Belgravia, Bloomsbury, Chelsea and Westminster are all beautiful and I could go on. You're just a jealous northerner.
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Old March 12th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #268
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In my opinion, London is far from ugly, probably in the top three most beautiful cities on earth. The vibe that London has is something special.

London may be "dirty" but im sure athletes won't refuse to compete in the 2012 olympics because of pollution
after beijing 2008 athletes will just be happy if they can see 10m in front of them during the race. beijing 2008 doesnt set a very high standard in terms of clean air.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 02:54 PM   #269
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Perhaps London isn't one of the top 3 most beautiful cities on earth, but that isn't to say it isn't beautiful in parts. West London and parts of the West End are incredibly beautiful - South Kensington, Notting Hill, Marylebone, Mayfair, Hampstead, Belgravia, Bloomsbury, Chelsea and Westminster are all beautiful and I could go on. You're just a jealous northerner.
Oh STFU will you, I could name about 20 more beautiful cities in the world but that does not make me a jealous northerner
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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #270
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Oh STFU will you, I could name about 20 more beautiful cities in the world but that does not make me a jealous northerner
I'm quite tempted to tell you to STFU, but I'l stick to my guns here. I honestly believe that London's beautiful parts are the equal of any city in the world - it's just the gritty bits inbetween that stop it from being a beautiful city as such. Walk round Hampstead, Marylebone, Mayfair or South Kensington and you'll see what I mean. Also, if you were to take all of London's beautiful areas and place them side-by-side, the overall area would probably be bigger than most of the 20 cities that you mention. It's just that because London is so huge, you don't notice the beautiful parts as those in other cities. It doesn't help that most of the beautiful parts are concentrated in the inner-city suburbs, rather than the city centre proper.

It's just a shame that tourists prefer to go to the usual places like the underwhelming Leicester Square and Oxford Street (which is a bit of a hotchpotch, architecture-wise). If they ventured further afield, they'd experience a different London, beautiful stuccoed terraces and pretty little squares.

Perhaps you aren't a jealous northerner, but I get sick to the backteeth of always having to defend London from people from other parts of the country, when many barely even know the city and seem to think it's all drive-by shootings and grim tower blocks. For what it's worth I've been to a few cities up north (Newcastle and Birmingham) and really liked them and I intend to go up to Manchester sometime soon. I just wish that people would appreciate that despite it's failings, London is still one of the greatest cities in the world and that despite rumours to the contrary, it's got some extremely beautiful parts.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #271
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after beijing 2008 athletes will just be happy if they can see 10m in front of them during the race. beijing 2008 doesnt set a very high standard in terms of clean air.

LOL so true. ( Despite their best efforts )
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Old March 13th, 2008, 05:29 PM   #272
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from the Olympic Delivery Authority

13 March 2008

The Olympic Delivery Authority (ODA) today announced a world-class shortlist of contractors bidding to manage the landscaping of the northern section of the London 2012 Olympic Park, which will be one of the largest new urban parks in Europe for 150 years.

The four shortlisted following a competitive procurement process are:

Fitzpatrick Contractors Ltd
Edmond Nuttall
Skanska McNicholas
Balfour Beatty
The ODA expects to appoint a landscape and public realm contractor for the north of the Park in the summer ready to pre-order trees and other plants, and for work to start on site in 2009. It’s expected that the appointed contractor will select and manage a number of specialist subcontractors.

ODA Parklands and Public Realm project sponsor John Hopkins said: 'We have had an encouraging response from industry keen to be involved in transforming former industrial land into a living and breathing Olympic Park. We have an impressive shortlist and we look forward to appointing a world-class contractor to manage the creation of a park fit for the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games and local people in legacy.'

The landscape and public realm contractor will be responsible for managing the transformation of 40 hectares of former industrial land and landfill currently being cleared and cleaned, into new open spaces, parklands and waterways fit for the Games and legacy.

This will include hard and soft landscape works including tree planting and the construction of the Olympic Concourse which will link all the venues, entrances and parklands. The contract will also include creating new wetland and other wildlife habitats, installing new allotments and permanent park furniture, lighting, irrigation and drainage. A contract for the landscaping of the south of the Park will be issued later in 2008.

After the Games the contractor will manage the transformation of the Olympic Park ready for legacy development, which will include removing the temporary Olympic Concourse to create meadows and lawns.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 07:47 PM   #273
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Oh STFU will you, I could name about 20 more beautiful cities in the world but that does not make me a jealous northerner
dude i'm from mansfield near you and it's a sh** hole and funny enough it's just north of another 'NOTTINGHAM' great city centre but st annes next door man that place is a dump and a haven for gun crime which probably has a bigger problem to due to the size of the city.So before you start saying london is not a beautiful city think of your own backyard first and beeston yeah i been there a few times and enough said the better.I'm assuming you've been to london whats your basis for your comments please.
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Old March 13th, 2008, 08:48 PM   #274
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Final point which will probably earn me the most amazing argument I've ever since in a discussion: London is dirty, ugly but not really that boring!

Nevertheless I'm sure London will pull through and produce some very good Olympics like the previous two times!
Absolute Bullshit, and totally dishonest. There is no argument, you are just speaking out of your narrow minded arse. Thankyou for the condescending comment at the end.
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dude i'm from mansfield near you and it's a sh** hole and funny enough it's just north of another 'NOTTINGHAM' great city centre but st annes next door man that place is a dump and a haven for gun crime which probably has a bigger problem to due to the size of the city.So before you start saying london is not a beautiful city think of your own backyard first and beeston yeah i been there a few times and enough said the better.I'm assuming you've been to london whats your basis for your comments please.
I know Mansfield is a shithole I used to work nearby in huthwaite! I was not saying London is not beautiful, nor was I comparing it to Nottingham?! I was just saying its not in the top 3, hell not even in the top 20. The basis for my comments come from actually getting out there and experiencing other cities in the world, and yes Ive been to london plenty of times. The thing that pissed me off was being called a jealous northerner, for the record I love London - cant wait for all these new skyscrapers etc to be built, Im all for them!

oh and theres nothing wrong with Beeston, it has probably the most expensive street in Nottingham
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Old March 14th, 2008, 12:18 AM   #276
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Sorry for causing a slight argument, some of you are obviously not very patriotic.

Get out more?!
I'm 16 and i've been to London, Paris, Las Vegas, New York, Los Angeles and Dubai. So I think I have a decent judgement. Trust me, your the one that needs to get out more.
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Sorry for causing a slight argument, some of you are obviously not very patriotic.

Get out more?!
I'm 16 and i've been to London, Paris, Las Vegas, New York, Los Angeles and Dubai. So I think I have a decent judgement. Trust me, your the one that needs to get out more.
Is that it? You said London is in the top 3 most beautiful, well is it more so than Paris, Vancouver, Cape Town, Boston, San Diego, Rome, Prague, NYC, Edinburgh, Barcelona, DC, San Fran, Sydney, Hong Kong, Rio etc etc, Im sure most neutrals wouldnt say so

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Aquatic Centre is an example of excessive architecture. They tried too hard to create a new design. Simpler designs could be great, too, like water cube. It is really simple at first look and great in details.

In the render, the stadium doesn’t look great. However, it might be quite something when it is completed.
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Old March 14th, 2008, 09:48 AM   #279
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Sorry for causing a slight argument, some of you are obviously not very patriotic.
So you admit you're simply being patriotic, and not, therefore factual. London is not in the top three most beautiful cities in the world.
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Queen open today Heathrow’s new Terminal 5, Britain’s biggest freestanding
building and one of the main arrival hubs of the 2012 Olympics.

The building described by to Architects as being 'Asian in style'
possibly a building you would see in the far east, and fitted out in a more luxurious Style than any other UK airport buildings with 6 luxury lounges.
The building has already has won environmental accolades.

The worlds most environmental new Terminal building setting new standards
across the world.

http://terminal5.baa.com/Terminal5/index.html

The London Olympic authority are in talks to improve
Heathrow, ahead of 2012 and with a new runway are in the plans.
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