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Old February 7th, 2009, 11:41 PM   #1121
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This is much more preferable to me than a monolith in the middle of a hugely uninviting concrete parade ground, which is what Beijing offered. Beijing 08 was a perfect games for an archticture forum to get its teeth in but the Olympics aren't about architecture and London is focussing on different aspects and giving less weight to huge architectural statements. It's fairly predictable how that would go down in a forum like this!
But..but...we are talking about having the mother of all sporting event, in one of the most (if not THE most) important city in the world, in a country that used to be a colonial power, no less. Isn't Olympic important enough to justify a more memorable structure, rather than this glorified circus tent?

If having a new urban park is important, why can't the London Olympic people come up with something as innovative as the Munich Olympic Park for the 1972 games? The parkland that surrounds the Olympiastadion is still gorgeous after all these years, and the German did downsize the stadium capacity when the game ended, and they turn it into a permanent home of a local football club.

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Old February 8th, 2009, 12:03 PM   #1122
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The 2004 Olympic legacy that London must avoid

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Old February 8th, 2009, 02:32 PM   #1123
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"But..but...we are talking about having the mother of all sporting event, in one of the most (if not THE most) important city in the world, in a country that used to be a colonial power, no less. Isn't Olympic important enough to justify a more memorable structure, rather than this glorified circus tent? "



What's so good with this stupid and shameful colonial power in the past?
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Old February 8th, 2009, 04:18 PM   #1124
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But..but...we are talking about having the mother of all sporting event, in one of the most (if not THE most) important city in the world, in a country that used to be a colonial power, no less. Isn't Olympic important enough to justify a more memorable structure, rather than this glorified circus tent?
No....not especially, not for the temporary venues anyway. And I think it's actually far better than the epithet you apply to it suggests. I think it will look great when built; like a colourful festival stage.

If anything, the fact that London is such a well-known and important city means such statements are less important.

The permanant venues such as the velodrome, the handball arena and the aquatics centre are of very high quality and will stand the test of time, and that's what matters.

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Old February 8th, 2009, 04:49 PM   #1125
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gosh! what an ugly stadium!

IMO this is alot better
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Old February 8th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #1126
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But that stadium would be terrible for acoustics and for wind currents within the ground...and would probably cost a huge amount more to construct.

Much more money for a functionally inferior stadium is what you're advocating.

And once again, can somebody give me evidence that less interesting stadiums diminish people's memories and the success of an Olympic Games? Sydney 2000....the best games ever according to many, many people had this for their main stadium...

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Old February 8th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #1127
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its the same story. the misconception that a better exterior and roof could not be achieved with same budget, while retaining the stadium temporary/permanent concept.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 01:04 PM   #1128
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Hello

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These are the pictures of original city? Looks like animation!! Its looking beautiful.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #1129
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Old February 12th, 2009, 06:52 PM   #1130
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These are the pictures of original city? Looks like animation!! Its looking beautiful.
What do you mean?
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Old February 16th, 2009, 11:27 AM   #1131
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Online Petition for an Olympic Holiday

(British Nationals only sign the Petition)

This Petition is online at 10 Downing street to make the first day
of the Olympics a national holiday for the UK.

Please go to the petition via the link and sign the petition all
details there as the petition finishes in April.


http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/2012Holiday/


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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #1132
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What do you mean?
I think he was asking whether the pics were of london or if they were renders (animations)?!
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Old February 16th, 2009, 05:13 PM   #1133
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The 2004 Olympic legacy that London must avoid

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...oid/article.do
Who cares?? EU is paying!
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Old February 16th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #1134
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Who cares?? EU is paying!
really? has the olympic debt been reduced by much since 2004?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 10:45 AM   #1135
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Online Petition for an Olympic Holiday

(British Nationals only sign the Petition)

This Petition is online at 10 Downing street to make the first day
of the Olympics a national holiday for the UK.

Please go to the petition via the link and sign the petition all
details there as the petition finishes in April.


http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/2012Holiday/


from 2012olympichost.com
As much as I usually hate these stupid petitions on the Downing St. website, this one might not be too bad.

Little Johnny Howard didn't give the Aussies a public holiday when the Sydney games started - I wonder if the Greeks, or the Georgians got one?
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Old February 17th, 2009, 05:02 PM   #1136
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A nice summation of what's going on, on the ground, as well as giving a good idea of the scale of what we're talking about:


Hard hats and hard cash: Welcome to London's £7.5bn Olympic building-site

A trip to London’s Olympic Park is always instructive, not least because it gives you an idea of what a £7.5bn building site looks like. I was fortunate enough to get a tour of the site in Stratford last week and it is impossible to escape the sense of progress on the ground.

The next year will be the busiest of London’s seven-year preparations for those building the venues and infrastructure. More than 3,000 people currently work on the site, which is run like a city-within-a-city with its own hospital and dedicated police and immigration officers, and while questions remain as how much it will eventually cost – the government’s latest estimate is £7.5bn with a following wind – on-site there is genuine movement.

My last trip was in July last year when the main stadium was just a saucer-shaped depression in the ground and millions of tonnes of soil still required cleaning before construction could begin.
Seven months on and the stadium is recognisably that, a crown of steel supports ringed by the some of the first seating supports emerging from the dirt, with the A-frames that will support the roof beginning to be installed.

Elsewhere the Aquatic Centre is beginning to rise from the ground too, though you would be hard-pressed to discern what shape it will take from the forest of steel and concrete supports onto which two huge-roof trusses will be shortly be loaded.
This is the most challenging building on the park, a fearsomely complicated construction thanks to the combination of Zaha Hadid’s hugely ambitious (and equally expensive) design and its position in the most complex corner of the park. As well as waterways and railways passing over ground, electricity cables run underneath, and engineers have had to design a huge load-bearing frame to ensure they do not collapse when the trusses are installed. Oh, and the site flooded last week.

Other venues are also beginning to progress, with the velodrome footprint clearly prepared and the media centre site cleared for construction to begin later this year.
Five large tower cranes have been installed as work begins on the £1bn Olympic village, with a further 19 due to be in place in the next few months to build the 11 tower blocks, each 11 stories high, that will house competitors come 2012.

Equally fundamental to the site is the development of waterways, roads and bridges that will turn what this once-dysfunctional mess of post-industrial sites into a coherent city space the size of Hyde Park.

At the moment site traffic ploughs along muddy tracks and over temporary bridge structures, but when the Games have gone new roads will serve the park and its residents. The River Lea has been widened too, with the pilings that currently keep floodwater at bay due to be replaced by landscaping come 2012. Progress is fundamental as well as cosmetic; the Park has its own £100m power station and three electricity sub-stations ensuring that it will be self-sufficient during and after the Games.

As the Olympic facilities rise work is proceeding apace on the adjoining Stratford City shopping centre development, which will be bigger than Westfield and Bluewater when it opens.
At the moment the John Lewis and Marks & Spencer buildings at the heart of this commercial development tower over the Olympic venues, but the two projects are fundamentally linked. The top-end retailers that have bought into Stratford City have done so on the understanding that the 2,800 apartments in the Olympic village will be bought after the Games by professionals living on ready-meals prepared in expensively-furnished kitchens.

That vision is five years away, and for now the focus in the Park is on continuing the good progress made so far, while the politicians and Olympic executives try and square the budget. On last week's evidence my money is on the chaps in the hard-hats.


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Carillion and its design team this morning revealed its designs for the London 2012 media centre, which is due to begin construction on site next month.

The £355M venue, now fully funded by the Olympic Delivery Authority (ODA) after design and build contractor Carillion failed to raise private funds, will comprise the International Broadcast Centre (IBC) and Main Press Centre (MPC), which will support around 20,000 broadcasters, photographers and journalists during the 2012 games.



Carillion’s design team of Allies and Morrison, Buro Happold and RPS Group Burks Green, have designed an IBC/MPC that combines a mixture of permanent and temporary elements during the Olympics in order to be as flexible as possible to accommodate a range of tenants and uses after the games.

“This innovative design provides a quality working environment for the media during the Games while delivering flexible and green employment space for a range of potential business uses in legacy,” said ODA Chairman John Armitt.

The MPC will meet demanding green standards in legacy through innovations including the use of recycled non-drinking water collected across the Olympic Park and new habitats to attract wildlife including a ‘brown roof’ and bird boxes.

A planning application for the IBC/MPC has been submitted this week, the site has been cleared and the contractor is due to start construction on the venue next month. It will provide 29,000m2 of office space when completed.

Mayor of Hackney Jules Pipe, said: “We are pleased the IBC/MPC will provide vital employment space in Hackney Wick after the Games. The Council’s aim is for the new business space to allow for the expansion of digital, media and creative industries that are thriving in East London. Local businesses and media companies have expressed strong interest in moving to the facilities in legacy, and we will continue to work to secure the best possible legacy for our Borough, residents and local businesses.”



Great another venue on the way!
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Old March 14th, 2009, 02:49 PM   #1138
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Great another venue on the way!
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Old March 18th, 2009, 07:36 PM   #1139
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Basketball Arena achieves consent.







Design proposals for the temporary 2012 Basketball Arena, the third largest venue on the Park, have gained planning permission. The building, designed by a multi-disciplinary team of specialists, will be home to Basketball, the Handball finals, Wheelchair Basketball, Wheelchair Rugby and will become a holding area for athletes for the opening and closing ceremonies.

Sinclair Knight Merz, Wilkinson Eyre and KSS Design Group created the concept designs which were agreed in June 2008 and the planning application was submitted in November. Last week the ODA Planning Committee resolved to approve the application subject to referral to the Government Office for London.

During the Olympic Games the Arena will have 12,000 seats for the Basketball preliminaries and quarter-finals, as well as the Handball semi-finals and finals. During the Paralympic Games it will have a capacity of 10,000 seats for Wheelchair Basketball and Wheelchair Rugby.

The temporary structure was originally located in the west of the Olympic Park just north of the Olympic Stadium. Last year, its location was changed to the former site of the Fencing Hall, in the north of the Park, after Olympic Fencing, Wheelchair Fencing and Paralympic Judo were moved to the ExCeL venue in Docklands. This change enabled the ODA to create more space for the Parklands so spectators can enjoy more of the Park and maximise the use of the other venues.

Basketball Arena Project Sponsor Paul Snoddy said: “The Arena will be one of the largest temporary venues built for any Games and will provide a great experience for spectators and athletes.

“After the Games, two thirds of the materials and elements of the Arena can be reused or recycled, potentially allowing other parts of the UK to benefit from London 2012.”

Most spectators will get to the Basketball Arena through three ‘gateway’ stations – Stratford Regional, Stratford International and West Ham. Spectators will also be able to use a number of walking and cycle routes to reach the Arena.

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Old March 19th, 2009, 01:35 PM   #1140
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Taken a couple of days ago showing the progress of the stadium and Aquatic Centre in the southern end of the Park.

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