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Old October 24th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #2061
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Wide Italian expressways.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 10:45 PM   #2062
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It will be a toll superstrada
Not autostrada?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #2063
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autostrada
- outer city: overall width (minimum) 25,00 m
- inner city: overall width (minimum) 24,20 m

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Old October 25th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #2064
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please, set the volume control at zero, especially if you understand italian
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Beh, che dire, l'evento č davvero importante:

@hofburg: I don't know why via Ceccotti at Gorizia seems be like an autostrada.

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Old October 25th, 2010, 10:09 PM   #2065
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alla prossima autostrada
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Old October 25th, 2010, 10:24 PM   #2066
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autostrada
- outer city: overall width (minimum) 25,00 m
- inner city: overall width (minimum) 24,20 m
There is also the difference of the ''fasce di rispetto''.
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Old October 29th, 2010, 12:53 PM   #2067
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Construction of the new Autostrada "corda molle" (a new semi-ring around Brescia)

many thanks to Torty

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Ciao a tutti!!
Mi chiamo Sandro, č un po' che vi seguo ma č la prima volta che scrivo.
Prima di tutto devo fare i complimenti all'intero forum per le notizie e foto sempre aggiornate..
A tal proposito ho un po' di foto del ponte che stanno assemblando in prossimitā del casello Brescia Sud.










ok.. spero di non aver fatto casino con le immagini :-D ...
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Old December 13th, 2010, 06:14 PM   #2068
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Italy v. Slovenia #52864: from May 2011 Italy will start charging the 4-km-long expressway from Trieste towards Koper because of the expensive Slovenian vignettes. (what about the 1.5-km-long motorway for Ljubljana?)

http://ilpiccolo.gelocal.it/dettagli...estina/2936832
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Old December 13th, 2010, 06:32 PM   #2069
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There is also the difference of the ''fasce di rispetto''.
One characteristic of italian motorways (from my experience I had this idea, which I confirm with the data from that drawing) is that the inner shoulder of motorways is very narrow. Only 70cm, whereas the usual in other countries is 1m or 1.5m.
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Old December 13th, 2010, 06:45 PM   #2070
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Italy v. Slovenia #52864: from May 2011 Italy will start charging the 4-km-long expressway from Trieste towards Koper because of the expensive Slovenian vignettes. (what about the 1.5-km-long motorway for Ljubljana?)
This is never mentioned in the article. Moreover, Italy will start charging 1000km of national roads at the same time (May 2011), not only the 4 km GVT.

Your comment is a bit out of line...
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Old December 13th, 2010, 07:35 PM   #2071
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Oh, I didn't know that, I just quoted our sensationalist media.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 11:55 AM   #2072
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Those will all be electronic tolls. I still want to see how are they going go enforce the tolls on foreign drivers. I only hope Italy doesn't come with a sort of its own "vignette" scheme.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 11:59 AM   #2073
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Those will all be electronic tolls. I still want to see how are they going go enforce the tolls on foreign drivers. I only hope Italy doesn't come with a sort of its own "vignette" scheme.
Hungary already uses this kind of e-payment since 2008, so it shouldn't be so difficult...
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Old December 14th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #2074
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It is different: Hungary has time based paymet, Italy plans distance based payment.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 03:44 PM   #2075
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It is different: Hungary has time based paymet, Italy plans distance based payment.
It shouldn't be that different. Videocameras monitoring entrances, exits, plate recognition algorithms, and that's it.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 03:54 PM   #2076
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Yes, but you have to buy an electronic vignette before you go on Hungarian motorways.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 03:57 PM   #2077
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Yes, but you have to buy an electronic vignette before you go on Hungarian motorways.
If foreigners buy electronic vignettes before going on Hungarian motorways, why foreigners couldn't do the same before going to Italian toll roads?
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Old December 14th, 2010, 04:07 PM   #2078
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Because it will be distance-based. Vignettes are time-based. Perhaps you'll have to buy an electronic device, but that would be impractical in Europe, unless it was a Europe-wide device.

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Old December 14th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #2079
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I see your point. As far as I know the Italian system will only require a bank account number, linked to the car plate, to be communicated to the toll company: they will calculate your fare and charge you accordingly after you use the roads. I think the Hungarian system requires a bank account too, but you just pay the vignette before using the roads, not after.

Yes, with some adjustments upon the Hungarian system I think it is a feasible system.
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Old December 14th, 2010, 04:41 PM   #2080
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I think the Hungarian system requires a bank account too
It doesn't. You can buy a 'vignette' with cash at some gas stations, and after that they don't care about you any more.
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