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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:54 AM   #2241
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I was in one of them. 2 hours for 30 km between Kreuz Muenchen Sued and Irschenberg.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 10:38 AM   #2242
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Utter chaos. The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Britain, Switzerland and Germany saw complete traffic gridlocks during the December snow storms.
In comparison, the block on the A1 was a joke.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 10:50 AM   #2243
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In comparison, the block on the A1 was a joke.
No, JB, you're not being objective. the A1 block was not a joke, at all. People was blocked more than 24 hours on the motorway, no communications by Autostrade per l'Italia, and what's worse, they kept the motorway open for other people to join the queue. That was an irresponsible behaviour by the authorities.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 11:37 AM   #2244
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You are right, my intention was not to diminish was happened on the A1 last december, but still remain an accident.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #2245
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One thing that always fascinated me was the suburb of Scampia of Napoli.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scampia

1. General layout, 2x2 expressway on the south side.


2. Exit towards Scampia is closed.


3. You have this kind of apartment blocks.


4. There are wide boulevards, mostly 2x2 without lane markings. There is also a large park and ample parking.


5. A lot of greenery, but it lacks maintenance.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:24 PM   #2246
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Scampia is an open wound. It was built in the '70 when the city-plans were often just drawings on paper. The unemployment rate is 75%, the buildings you mentioned, "Le vele" (the sails) are home to poor people and often to drug dealers and criminals. Obviously there are also decent people living there, but they are often "held hostage" of camorra and criminal gangs. The State is very far from these places.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:37 PM   #2247
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Which is the link between Scampia and italian Autostrade?
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:39 PM   #2248
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The superstrada "asse mediano".
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:42 PM   #2249
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In your first post was not clear :P
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:43 PM   #2250
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In fact I never mentioned it, but Chris did
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #2251
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It seemed to me
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:49 PM   #2252
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Which is the link between Scampia and italian Autostrade?
The threads in Highways & Autobahns are not limited to motorways, but includes all kinds of roads, including city streets.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:52 PM   #2253
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Yes, I was referring to the first post of spinoza; I would have to write "the link between Scampia problems and italian Autostrade".
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Old February 15th, 2011, 12:56 PM   #2254
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Just to add a little broader information
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Old February 15th, 2011, 01:13 PM   #2255
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Southern start of A3 in Reggio Calabria:
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Old February 15th, 2011, 05:54 PM   #2256
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The threads in Highways & Autobahns are not limited to motorways, but includes all kinds of roads, including city streets.
Scampia is probably the worst area for crime in Italy.

It's basically a huge hub for selling drugs.

It was the home of the camorra war of the year 2000', between the Di Lauro clan and the "scissionisti" (or people that want to secede, from the clan). Around 100 people died for that "war" which left both warring clans quite damaged (also by police) but claimed a victory more-or-less of the scissionisti

The clan war is depicted quite well in the famous movie "Gomorrah" and Scampia plays an important part in the setting.

There is nothing even remotely close to its desperation even in the other crime-ridden cities of south Italy like Palermo, Reggio Calabria or Bari.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 05:57 PM   #2257
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ps: Scampia was largely built in reality after the horrible heartquake that stroke Naples region Campania in 1980 and claimed thousands deaths

A quick, large accomodation for people with no housing was built
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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:02 PM   #2258
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few pics from the very good road that goes nowhere. it should connect Gorizia with Udine, but soon after the bridge over Isonzo river it stops and connects to SS351 road, direction Trieste.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...28,0.1684&z=13






















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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #2259
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Whoa... do you mind resizing them to a reasonable size, say 1024px?

By the way, what is the story behind the road numbering of the Messina - Catania - Siracusa motorway? Nowadays it turns from A18 into RA 15, then into an unnumbered motorway, then SS 114 and then A18 again... Weird.
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Old February 15th, 2011, 07:04 PM   #2260
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I hate photobucket, it resized just a few of my photos :/ wait
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