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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #3141
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This road has 10 lanes, 2+3+3+2, you can see the left 2-lane roadway just underneath the overpass. It's the A90-A1 Dir North interchange.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #3142
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This one with its service road is most certainly GRA, possibly east side (west side has less trees).

EDIT: of course Chris came first

this is Street View:
http://maps.google.it/?ll=41.982138,...316.36,,0,0.88
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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:51 PM   #3143
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Here's the exact location:
http://maps.google.nl/maps?hl=en&ll=...303.64,,1,2.44
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Old January 12th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #3144
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I came first, this time
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Old January 12th, 2012, 10:34 PM   #3145
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=263026

I found a project from 2001 about a motorway linking Brescia, Italy with Kempten, Germany.
It would be mostly undergrund, tunnels in order are long: 23.020km, 8.150km, 11.770km, 8.790km, 17.720km, 26.320km, 25.660km, 16.600km, 16.400km and 16.800km. Quite insane.
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Old January 12th, 2012, 11:30 PM   #3146
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It consisted also of a railway, that would have shared the right of way with a motorway. Joining both transport systems is usually impossible, because a railway need low gradients (and thus many tunnels), while the less tunnels there are on roads, the better.
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Old January 13th, 2012, 09:44 AM   #3147
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Yes, such a road is insane. If they're ever gonna built something there, I bet it will not run from Brescia but from Lecco, through Valtellina till Bormio. But it's a long shot.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 12:43 PM   #3148
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Some very recent pics of the U\C interchanges in Messina:




Recently was approved the project of the soutern extension of the A22 to connect Sassuolo with the motorway network.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 12:56 PM   #3149
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Some very recent pics of the U\C interchanges in Messina:
Is this normal? I wouldn't feel very comfortable driving on it...
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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #3150
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Is this normal? I wouldn't feel very comfortable driving on it...
Just a weird angle with a wide-open camera angle :p
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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:15 PM   #3151
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Yes, such a road is insane. If they're ever gonna built something there, I bet it will not run from Brescia but from Lecco, through Valtellina till Bormio. But it's a long shot.
It would be cool to have another full motorway through the Alps, and a Galleria dello Stelvio
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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #3152
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Just a weird angle with a wide-open camera angle :p
I don't think so, first because the other two carriageways behind it are straight. Second, the caption reads "The nodding Giostra ramp near the junction with Ritiro viaduct before Telegrafo tunnel"
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Old January 19th, 2012, 10:08 PM   #3153
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Is this normal? I wouldn't feel very comfortable driving on it...
I'd better say: I wouldn't feel very comfortable living below it.
However, considering the terrain and the urbanization, they had not other choises.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #3154
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I'd better say: I wouldn't feel very comfortable living below it.
However, considering the terrain and the urbanization, they had not other choises.
Living near a major interchange, with direct view of the roadway, is one my dream locations (though that particular area in Messina is quite a bad one, low-class and with bad houses)
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Old January 20th, 2012, 02:48 PM   #3155
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Second postponing for the opening of Corda Molle, the external Brescia tangenziale. The municipality of Flero issued a formal protest because Centropadane refuses to build a link from the Flero exit towards the Quinzanese, a major road that passes just out of the town. The current exit is linked to a local road running just through the centre of Flero, and the mayor fears long tails of vehicles jamming the entire town.

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Old January 20th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #3156
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Why is this road called "soft rope"?
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Old January 20th, 2012, 06:26 PM   #3157
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Why is this road called "soft rope"?
Because if you look at the map it looks like a rope not tightened around the city of Brescia:

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Old January 21st, 2012, 12:08 AM   #3158
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Pino, I am a bit of a roadgeek and use road numbers, but I must say I am more comfortable with destinations. Even when I was in Germany I knew that, if I had to go towards Stuttgart from Munich, I'd encounter first Augsburg, then Ulm. I still remember them without looking at the map, but I don't remember the name of the road (was it A8? A9?). It's just that I remember maps better than numbers, and I suspect (most of) my fellow Italians do the same.
Which can unfortunately also be seen on the signage itself, since number shields on motorways are practicly unreadable and the lack of confirmation of the road number you're actually driving on. That's quite a pity, it makes the signage less useful...
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Old January 21st, 2012, 10:48 PM   #3159
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:55 AM   #3160
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Just arrived after skiing and wondering again two things about rest areas on Italy motorway network.
1st: why there is almost always gas station AFTER snack bar or restaurant
2nd: why there are almost never toilet seats and covers in toilets, even new or renovated rest areas?
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