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Old February 10th, 2012, 12:16 PM   #3241
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Actually I speak some Italian (very poor) but these signs with long texts are difficult to understand for me as well. And what about foreigners that don't understand that language at all?
Well, when I lived in Germany I did not find a single sign written in a language other than German. And I remember that in the bus station of Pula, a bilingual city with international destinations, there were only signs in Croatian, I could not make head and tails of it.
I don't think you can demand that every sign in a given country is written in 2, 3 or more languages. You have to be prepared and buy a dictionary...
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Old February 10th, 2012, 02:09 PM   #3242
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No, actually I think signs that need a textual description of 6-8-10 lines, have no sense at all.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 03:30 PM   #3243
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Cuneo-Sant'Albano Stura section of A33 is going to open next 20th February:
http://www.targatocn.it/2012/02/09/l...tto-stura.html
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Old February 10th, 2012, 03:40 PM   #3244
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There's a sign for Pula in Italy?
Yes. We have signs for Pula\Pola, Koper\Capodistria, Rijeka\Fiume and Ljubljana\Lubiana. They are bilingual.
Nova Gorica and Villach, on the country, are written only in Slovenian\German because nobody uses Nuova Gorizia and Villaco even in Italy.

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That's Italian and Resian, right? (Slovenian dialect, although I hardly understand it) Don't tell me they call Slovenia "Buske"!?
Yup. This sign is located in Val Resia where they don't speak standard Slovenian but a Slovenian dialect spoken and understood only there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resian_dialect

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Well, when I lived in Germany I did not find a single sign written in a language other than German. And I remember that in the bus station of Pula, a bilingual city with international destinations, there were only signs in Croatian, I could not make head and tails of it.
I don't think you can demand that every sign in a given country is written in 2, 3 or more languages. You have to be prepared and buy a dictionary...
It's not practical go everywhere with a dictionary and spend time to check every word you find written around. Translating an entire sentence with dictionary (or googling with your smartphone) requires a long time. Local language + English is the minimum they should put in a touristic location.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 05:36 PM   #3245
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Yes.
Do you know where exactly Pula is signed and can you find any picture?

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Nova Gorica and Villach, on the country, are written only in Slovenian\German because nobody uses Nuova Gorizia and Villaco even in Italy.
I think it was signed only "Nuova Gorizia" by Villesse before, but I'm not sure. I thought you used Villaco in spoken language. Do you pronounce Villach like in German [filach] or you say [vilach]?
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Old February 10th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #3246
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Do you pronounce Villach like in German [filach] or you say [vilach]?
Italian pronounciation is more "Villak", with the double l and a hard k. There are no palatal fricatives in Italian.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #3247
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Italian pronounciation is more "Villak"
Lol, that's not much different from Villaco.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 09:02 PM   #3248
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Do you know where exactly Pula is signed and can you find any picture?
Sorry, I checked and there is no Pula signed on the motorway near Trieste, maybe it was on H5 just after Rabuiese border crossing. There is a sign with "Pola" on the so called "Bivio di Opicina" (Opicina crossroad) that is now a roundabout with the streetcar tracks in the middle. It's at the junction between SR58 Trieste - Fernetti border and SP35.

Don't know why Rijeka and Koper are written in 2 language but not Pula and Ljubljana.
On the motorway in Italy there are Koper and Rijeka but not Pula.




Too bad that they put Slovenia only at Fernetti interchange. One going to Koper or Rijeka may think he should exit there.


On SS14 south of Trieste Koper, Rijeka and Ljubljana are signed; sometimes Slovenian and Croatian names are deleted with spray.




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Old February 10th, 2012, 09:13 PM   #3249
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Cool, I've never seen Pula/Pola signed in Italy.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #3250
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Lulz. There still are freaks who spray roadsigns?
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Old February 10th, 2012, 10:18 PM   #3251
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Sorry, I checked and there is no Pula signed on the motorway near Trieste, maybe it was on H5 just after Rabuiese border crossing.
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Cool, I've never seen Pula/Pola signed in Italy.
Then I probably mixed up signs in Italy and Slovenia, as I was sure I saw it around Trieste There are such signs in SLO: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...near_Koper.jpg
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Then I probably mixed up signs in Italy and Slovenia, as I was sure I saw it around Trieste There are such signs in SLO: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...near_Koper.jpg
Yes, I also saw it. It's in Slovenia near Rabuiese border crossing.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 01:08 AM   #3253
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Then I probably mixed up signs in Italy and Slovenia, as I was sure I saw it around Trieste
You did; those signs aren't far from Trieste after all.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 04:23 AM   #3254
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one have to agree, there's so much inconsistency on those signs.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #3255
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Lol, that's not much different from Villaco.
That's right. I always say "Villaco".


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Don't know why Rijeka and Koper are written in 2 language but not Pula and Ljubljana.
Maybe because Pula and Ljubljana are not so different in Italian, while Rijeka and Koper are.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #3256
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My video about driving on A21 racc, the newly opened "corda molle" near Brescia. You can see the works on the SP19 to upgrade it to motorway standard, basically the second half of corda molle:


Be kind with me, it's my first video
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Old February 14th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #3257
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That's one of the strangest Italian motorways IMO. It's also quite empty.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #3258
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It's normal that it is empty, it is poorly linked with the rest of the net and it's open only for 10 days.

What do you mean by "strange"?
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Old February 14th, 2012, 10:20 PM   #3259
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What do you mean by "strange"?
I still don't know its purpose. Nice video, btw.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 11:39 PM   #3260
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It provides a fast limk across the southwestern outskirts of Brescia. An economically prominent area with a notoriously subpar rural roads network. I know somerhing about it. We could use a couple of these motorways just a few miles to the south...
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