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Old February 15th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #3261
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I still don't know its purpose. Nice video, btw.
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It provides a fast limk across the southwestern outskirts of Brescia. An economically prominent area with a notoriously subpar rural roads network. I know somerhing about it. We could use a couple of these motorways just a few miles to the south...
I don't think this is the only purpose of Corda molle, otherwise any major city should have one. "Economical prominent areas" are common in Italian city hinterlands.

I think the purpose of the Corda molle is to be a collector of the future BreBeMi and the "more than future" Valtrompia motorway. Were they to be connected directly to A4, that piece of motorway couldn't bear that much traffic.

As it is now, without those other motorways connected to it, Corda molle IMO is pretty useless.
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Old February 15th, 2012, 11:31 AM   #3262
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So it is not connected to A21? I drove over A21 just few weeks ago and I don't remember any new interchange or junction (it was pretty dense fog however).
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Old February 15th, 2012, 11:53 AM   #3263
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It is but not directly since A21 is tolled while A21 racc is not. Exit Brescia Sud (opened in 2008) on A21 is linked via a roundabout to exit Poncarale on A21 racc.

EDIT: You can see the exit Poncarale in my video at 3:04 and the bridge overpassing the A21 at 3:16.

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Old February 20th, 2012, 10:43 AM   #3264
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Today section 1 of Autostrada A33 from Cuneo to Sant'Albano Stura will open, at 1:30pm.

http://www.targatocn.it/2012/02/17/l...sti-cuneo.html


It seems like this year and next year there is a bunch of new autostrade openings in Italy. After thirty years of basically nothing this is good news.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 11:12 AM   #3265
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How long is that section and where will it end?
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Old February 20th, 2012, 11:17 AM   #3266
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The section is approx 13 km long and it basically completes section 1 of the motorway, from Cuneo to the junction with A6. Section 1 lacks only the Cuneo tangenziale.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 09:01 PM   #3267
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what is situation with section Asti - Cherasco? i drove it 2 years ago, tangenziale di Asti was only expressway (with very complicated intersection with A21!), then south of Asti began motorway which ended by Alba (and it had open tolling system!). there was also one small section from A6 to Cherasco built, but that was all (I had to enter Roreto from direction Bra)
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Old February 20th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #3268
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AFAIK that section is still as you remember it. Works should start next fall.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 03:54 PM   #3269
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Apparently a circa 30 kilometer extension of the A27 to Cadore has been greenlit by the Italian government.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 05:52 PM   #3270
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Yes, the Ministry for Environment gave its ok. Works could start as early as June 2012.
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:12 PM   #3271
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A27 will reach A23 near Tolmezzo in the FAR future.
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i would rather see A31 reaching A22
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We can all dream...
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Old February 21st, 2012, 08:48 PM   #3274
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I think A31 is a bit overrated, it's probably easier to reconstruct SS47 into an autostrada.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 10:09 AM   #3275
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Both South and North Tirol don't want a new motorway on their territory, and a linking A23-A27 would via the mountains would be much more expensive than a road just below the Alps (like Vittorio Veneto-Udine/Carnia). I think and I hope the A27 will remain a dead-end motorway forever.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 10:24 AM   #3276
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I hope the contrary, that they wil be forced to accept. There is no room for particularism in a global world.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 11:05 AM   #3277
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New motorways in the Alps are not very well perceived anywhere nowadays.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 11:12 AM   #3278
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New motorways in the Alps are not very well perceived anywhere nowadays.
I know, but this is not engraved in stone, you know. Things change.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 11:22 AM   #3279
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Sure. For example in the last 20 to 30 years political views changed from an "all road" view to the inverse or something intermediate. In the future, who knows?

In the case of A27 I see more bypasses for villages along SS51 to Cortina d'Ampezzo as more realistic.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 11:29 AM   #3280
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I think, as italysf said, that the most probable - but very far in the future - solution is a link to the A23 at Tolmezzo. Which is useless, to me.

But one can dream of a Venice-Munich
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