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Old February 27th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #3341
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There is an accident sign (red), then: "it is advised to take alternative routes"
I think this would be more acceptable for many tourists, especially when VMS is before the end of queue. As for Italians, they can write text message below.


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Old February 27th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #3342
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geor, Italy is one of the few countries that seldom uses English text in VMS. In Germany they only use German, in France don't even let me start, their whole world is in French. In Spain they use Spanish, and, think about that, sometimes Catalan, how useful is that.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 10:55 PM   #3343
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I also saw German on the A4 between Bergamo and Milan to say that there were 12 kilometers of queue northbound before the Gotthard tunnel last summer. Not italian and german...only german.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 11:15 PM   #3344
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AFAIK MW Company A.Venete in Palmanova works on new project with Croatian colleagues. That includes different ways of distributing important traffic info via VMS portals on MW and exchanging info between them (Cro A1,A6,A7-It A4,A23,A28).

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Old February 27th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #3345
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AFAIK MW Company A.Venete in Palmanova works on new project with Croatian colleagues. That includes different ways of distributing important traffic info via VMS portals on MW and exchanging info between them (Cro A1,A6,A7-It A4,A23,A28).
Ignoring there is another country in between.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 11:48 PM   #3346
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Ignoring there is another country in between.
No, Italy and Slovenia have already done theirs project, as well as Croatia and Slovenia
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Old February 28th, 2012, 01:10 AM   #3347
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True, but for no reason you drive more than half GRA at once.
Yes, that's what I meant.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #3348
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There is an accident sign (red), then: "it is advised to take alternative routes"
it looks fake
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Old February 29th, 2012, 10:11 AM   #3349
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geor, Italy is one of the few countries that seldom uses English text in VMS. In Germany they only use German, in France don't even let me start, their whole world is in French. In Spain they use Spanish, and, think about that, sometimes Catalan, how useful is that.
I strongly have to disagree there. The French are brilliant in the usage of other languages depending where you are. Around Calais all information is displayed in English as well, and near the German border they use a lot of German. And near the Mont Blanc and Frejus tunnels, you will find a lot of Italian displayed. And on 107.7 FM traffic is updated in English on a lot of routes.

Routes to and from the sun have displays in French, English and German.

Some information and warning signs are displayed in other languages as well, and around the Lille area you even find information displayed in Dutch. Road side facilities are in English as well.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 10:14 AM   #3350
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I don't know what to say, around Perpignan there are no info in Spanish, near Nice there is nothing in Italian, and the same before the Frejus tunnel.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:17 AM   #3351
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I share Spinoza's experience. Surely you will find a couple of signs in other languages on French motorways, but they are relatively far in between (though I have to admit that I have never been around Calais). The most prominent signs are signs that tell trucks to use low gear or that they cannot drive through Lille.

Italy does indeed go an extra mile by using English as a second language on all VMS that indicate road works and sometimes even as the only language when it comes to directing tourist traffic onto alternative routes.

107.7 FM in France gives updates in the English language, but so does Isoradio in Italy.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM   #3352
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Do you know if there are some German radio stations broadcasting traffic info also in English? When I lived there I used to listen to Antenne Bayern but they only broadcast in German, which was quite difficult for me to understand, especially in the first months.
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I'm not aware of any German mainstream radio station broadcasting traffic information in other languages than German. The difference between Germany and France/Italy is of course that Germany's traffic information comes from radio stations with a general audience, not from a station like 107.7 or Isoradio that focus on the motorist. For non-motorists listening to the German radio, it is already boring enough to have traffic updates as long and regular as German radio stations do, let alone to also listen to the same repeated in English.

What I don't know, however, is whether any of the digital traffic information channels that are around these days offer traffic information in languages other than German. And I don't know whether the radio stations operated by the US and British forces in some parts of Germany have traffic information.
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Do you know if there are some German radio stations broadcasting traffic info also in English? When I lived there I used to listen to Antenne Bayern but they only broadcast in German, which was quite difficult for me to understand, especially in the first months.
While around Garda you have several radio stations broadcasting in German. Slovenia is good at English VMS too...
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Old March 1st, 2012, 06:29 PM   #3355
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in HR during the summer period there are often traffic information in english, german and italian on radio
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Are Slovenian and Croatian mutually intelligible?
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basicly yes. people from northwestern Croatia shouldn't have many problems with understanding a Slovenian speaking slowly. but somebody from southern Croatia will not understand Slovenian that easy if he never had a touch with them.
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Are Slovenian and Croatian mutually intelligible?
From a purely theoretical point of view, I doubt (except with northern- and western Croatian dialects (including Zagreb)). I think it has more to do with our proximity and having been in the same country, with (Serbo-)Croatian as the main language. We also travel a lot to each other's countries. For example, I can't speak other Slavic languages and I don't understand them very well either. Sorry for OT.
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From a purely theoretical point of view, I doubt (except with northern- and western Croatian dialects (including Zagreb)). I think it has more to do with our proximity and having been in the same country, with (Serbo-)Croatian as the main language. We also travel a lot to each other's countries. For example, I can't speak other Slavic languages and I don't understand them very well either. Sorry for OT.
Or maybe some words are similar and other not but understanding some of them you can have a clue of the sentence. Like Italian and Spanish.
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Old March 1st, 2012, 10:36 PM   #3360
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Yes, it's probably like Italian and Spanish. But not like Czech and Slovak, they're much more similar.
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