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Old April 20th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #3501
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I have a question:
Stelvio Pass- Cortina D'Ampezzo - Kranjska Gora ( Slovenia ).
Which route is the best? Again: scenic/time. Any tips/advices would help.
Ss 38 from Stelvio pass to Merano, expressway to Bolzano, ss241 trough Costalunga pass (roads through a canyon, one of the most scenic roads I ever been), ss48 to Cortina through Pordoi pass (again, very beautiful), ss51, ss51bis, ss52 to Tolmezzo through Mauria pass, A23 (or ss13) to Tarvisio, then follow signs to Ratece/Kranjska gora.
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Old April 20th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #3502
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Lot II.5 is not necessary at all, as there is already a 4-lane Alba bypass, which will be refurbished together with lot II.6 works. Once lot II.6 will be open to traffic, there will be a complete 4-lane route between A6 (Marene) and A21 (Asti).
Maybe I then misunderstood the division into lots, as I was under the impression that Lot II.5 was not only the Alba bypass (i.e. upgrade of the present Statale), but also the very connector between Lot II.6 and the current Alba bypass. So if Lot II.6 runs to the Alba bypass, you can ignore what I said.
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Old April 20th, 2012, 10:44 PM   #3503
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Yup! Great!
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Anything in particular to see along this route?
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Old April 20th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #3504
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Yup! Great!
Grazie
Anything in particular to see along this route?
East of Bolzano you can have a stop near the nice Carezza lake (Karersee), then there is the town of Canazei (very nice, IMHO). From Pordoi pass you can take the cable car to Sass Pordoi, where there is a bar and restaurant at 2950 meters above sea level, the landscape from above is very beautiful if the sky is clean but the ticket is quite expensive, around 10€ if I remember well. You can see snow even in the middle of the summer at this elevation.
Off course Cortina deserves a visit, but is an exclusive destination with luxury shops and hotels and a lot of tourist. If you want a quite spot for enjoy the mountain environment, stay away from here. Also Tarvisio is a nice place and turistically developed. Just before the Slovenian border you can take a little detour to Fusine lakes. You can considering also a short trip to Austria. I've heard the road through Wurzenpass (A-SLO) is very bad, but I never drove there. Don't forget vignettes if you take motorways in Slovenia and Austria. Stelvio pass won't open before the last week of May and since this year will be tolled.
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Old April 20th, 2012, 11:43 PM   #3505
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Everything!
I agree completely with italystf's route.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 12:18 AM   #3506
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Stelvio Pass Toll? How much ?
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Old April 21st, 2012, 12:23 AM   #3507
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nah, not yet. It'll be delivered from Austria in july-august.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 12:48 AM   #3508
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Stelvio Pass Toll? How much ?
Sorri, it was just a proposal. They won't introduce it before 2013.
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Old April 21st, 2012, 01:08 AM   #3509
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I see you are doing a full mountain pass tour That is very cool. I did something akin last summer.

Just to go back a bit in the thread, there is a 3rd option between Berninapaß and Passo Stelvio. I just put it here: http://g.co/maps/p2p5d

Going there, you will travel through the Passo Gavia, which is, in my opinion, the most daunting Alpine paved, opened for traffic pass in Italy. Not the highest, but one of the most "remote", light trafficked with many challenging (but not dangerous - daytime and low speed) features.

Take a look in these street views:
http://g.co/maps/7jnec
http://g.co/maps/8nanx
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http://g.co/maps/pympz
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Old April 21st, 2012, 01:28 AM   #3510
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Aye! 2 1/2 weeks : 6 cars 12 countries . It'll be lovely.
We've done this few years ago and now we have the chance to do it again.
Gavia Pass - noted . Danke Schon

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Old April 21st, 2012, 06:38 AM   #3511
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First pictures of NCI, the new East bypass of Rome:
http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/20...ia-33642491/1/
It's the expressway we talked about recently?
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Old April 24th, 2012, 04:26 PM   #3512
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Some pics of Autostrada Pedemontana u/c


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Sembra che il prossimo fine settimana sia quello buono per la posa del cavalcavia di Pedemontana sulla A8 a Cassano Magnago... simbolo della autostrada che arriverà

Consiglio questa galleria fotografica... alcune foto sono di ieri http://www3.varesenews.it/gallerie/?tag=699





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Old April 24th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #3513
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Interesting, there are actually real tunnels, not just cut&covers as it would be expected in such plains like around Milano.
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Old April 24th, 2012, 07:35 PM   #3514
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No, they're cut and cover tunnels, but their shape is like natural tunnels, with three prefabricated elements to make the arc.

I wondered why they made 'em that way and a possible answer could be that with an arc shape tunnel the structure is more resistant so they could use less concrete to build the frame (even because the shape itself requires less as three linear beams have a biggest total lenght)
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Old April 24th, 2012, 07:45 PM   #3515
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EDIT

You were reffering to these ones





I don't know why they didn't use cut and cover technique. Probably they have underpass a urban area or something like that

I'm gonna check
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Old April 24th, 2012, 08:09 PM   #3516
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I don't know why they didn't use cut and cover technique. Probably they have underpass a urban area or something like that

I'm gonna check
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It's this strech running under those houses

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http://www.pedemontana.com/progetto_...0_FI_002_A.pdf
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Old April 24th, 2012, 10:42 PM   #3517
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I have few practical questions:

We are driving down from Basel to Genoa in two weeks and then following the coast to Marseille. Any idea how much it costs to use autostrada from the Swiss border to Genoa? We haven't been further in Italy than lake Como with a car yet...

Also is it likely that coastal road from Genoa to Nice will be very crowded this time of the year? Not that we are in a hurry - two days to cover this distance Any particularly nice roads in this part of Italy?
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Old April 24th, 2012, 10:57 PM   #3518
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I have few practical questions:

We are driving down from Basel to Genoa in two weeks and then following the coast to Marseille. Any idea how much it costs to use autostrada from the Swiss border to Genoa? We haven't been further in Italy than lake Como with a car yet...

Also is it likely that coastal road from Genoa to Nice will be very crowded this time of the year? Not that we are in a hurry - two days to cover this distance Any particularly nice roads in this part of Italy?
If you drive a car/moto:
Como - Genoa 14,10
Genoa - Ventimiglia 15,80

The A10 Genoa - French border is very beautiful, as well the parallel SP1 "Via Aurelia".
I don't think motorways are very crowded in this period except in the urban areas of Milan and Genoa, better avoid rush hour.
I don't reccomend drivings along the Ligurian coast entirely on the SP1, is very slow and you will cross all towns.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 02:00 AM   #3519
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I have few practical questions:

We are driving down from Basel to Genoa in two weeks and then following the coast to Marseille. Any idea how much it costs to use autostrada from the Swiss border to Genoa? We haven't been further in Italy than lake Como with a car yet...

Also is it likely that coastal road from Genoa to Nice will be very crowded this time of the year? Not that we are in a hurry - two days to cover this distance Any particularly nice roads in this part of Italy?
Whole A10 is a very interesting highway, especially west of Savona: many tunnels, and many ocean views.

If you want some good oceanside drive on the old parallel road, do so between Savona and Pietra Ligure.
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Old April 25th, 2012, 03:56 PM   #3520
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria: Anas opened new interchange of 'Lauria Nord'


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Salerno-Reggio Calabria, Anas: aperto al traffico il nuovo svincolo di Lauria Nord. Inviata e-mail informativa alla Gabanelli!

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