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Old August 23rd, 2012, 04:20 PM   #4061
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 09:35 PM   #4062
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Two postcards from Italy:





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Old August 23rd, 2012, 09:44 PM   #4063
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When was the current A-numbering in Italy introduced? The postcard above is from approximately 1968 - 1970 based on the A55 around Torino, which means the current A-numbering must've been around since at least the 1960s.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 10:27 PM   #4064
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When was the current A-numbering in Italy introduced? The postcard above is from approximately 1968 - 1970 based on the A55 around Torino, which means the current A-numbering must've been around since at least the 1960s.
I guess when A1, our first real motorway, opened between 58 and 64. Surely they didn't exist before the war, otherwise A8 would be A1.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 04:57 AM   #4065
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SS-281

This is SS-281, an 1+1 expressway connecting both coastlines of Calabria





I took the pics near Mammola.

The route is an expressway with a very long viaduct/bridge following the river valley there (almost 7km). The whole "tip" of Italy is subject to some flash floods and rapid build-up of otherwise small creeks on flood plains. Moreover, the soil for some reason I don't remember exactly is not very good for typical method of construction (build a dyke with earthworks and put the road over it) over dangerous areas of flood plains.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:02 AM   #4066
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Toscana-Marche border

This is the provincial border between world-famous Toscana and world-unknown Marche on a small provincial route through a low-altitude pass.

The route is paved on Marche, gravel on Toscana


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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:08 AM   #4067
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Where to?

A bit of road sign madness on Calabria

Three times same park. We get it. But what is difference between where I am, and where can I go SW and NE?

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Note that they indicate individual attractions within the park separately, then put another sign with all of them condensed. You need virtually to stop or car and decipher the sign
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Old August 25th, 2012, 11:42 AM   #4068
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They should either get better signage or put a "Park and read" like someone proposed on a Slovenian motorway with a sign saying 12 destinations.
BTW, Cotronei sounds like a misspelling of Krotone .
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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #4069
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This is the provincial border between world-famous Toscana and world-unknown Marche on a small provincial route through a low-altitude pass.
My native region.
It is not so world-unknown, given the amount of NL and L plates I spotted around.
The pass should be "Passo della Spugna" (751 m)
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:46 PM   #4070
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My native region.
It is not so world-unknown, given the amount of NL and L plates I spotted around.
Should have explained better, despite the off-topic. Many people visit the Adriatic resorts or places like Urbino and other hill towns, but they don't immediately associate the region with "Marche" like they'd associate Firenze with "Toscana" or to a lesser degree Napoli with "Campania".

There are also many clueless people (and many tourist ads from abroad) advertising "agriturismi" near Peruggia or, gosh, Spoleto (seen personally by me here in Netherlands) as being laid on "Tuscan countryside".

Not a problem, though, it's a bit too much to expect sun-seeking Northern Europeans to know the quirks of national subdivisions. I'm satisfied enough they don't think the other side of the Mont Blanc is French because cities have French names :p
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:55 PM   #4071
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For many Italians Glasgow and Cardiff are in England and Maastricht and Utrecht in Holland.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 08:06 PM   #4072
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There's a word to define this: Synecdoche. Technically is not a mistake, depends of the contest you say it
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There's a word to define this: Synecdoche. Technically is not a mistake, depends of the contest you say it
Yes, it means a part for the whole. Other times you say the whole for a part (America for the USA).
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Old August 25th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #4074
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Or anywhere. After 9/11,wasn't it Chirac who said we are all Americans? Until Iraq got invaded of course, then we were all Europeans again...
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In French, Germany is "Allemagne", in Spanish it's Alemania, in Portuguese it's Alemanha, reffering to the Alemanni, a germanic tribe in the southwestern part of today's Germany. Note how all beforementioned countries lie to the Southwest of Germany.

The Finnish, however, call Germany Germany "Saksa", obviously referring to the Saxons. So...
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Old August 26th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #4076
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...and Slavic people call them 'mute ones'. Languages develop by people stupidity.
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Old August 26th, 2012, 04:52 PM   #4077
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Should have explained better, despite the off-topic. Many people visit the Adriatic resorts or places like Urbino and other hill towns, but they don't immediately associate the region with "Marche" like they'd associate Firenze with "Toscana" or to a lesser degree Napoli with "Campania".

There are also many clueless people (and many tourist ads from abroad) advertising "agriturismi" near Peruggia or, gosh, Spoleto (seen personally by me here in Netherlands) as being laid on "Tuscan countryside".

Not a problem, though, it's a bit too much to expect sun-seeking Northern Europeans to know the quirks of national subdivisions. I'm satisfied enough they don't think the other side of the Mont Blanc is French because cities have French names :p
One would think someone who's campaigning to make English-speaking people to stop saying "Florence" and "Naples" would know how to spell "Perugia."

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Old August 26th, 2012, 05:00 PM   #4078
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Who is trying to stop English speakers to call place names the English speaking way?
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Old August 26th, 2012, 07:43 PM   #4080
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One would think someone who's campaigning to make English-speaking people to stop saying "Florence" and "Naples" would know how to spell "Perugia."

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