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Old November 17th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #4581
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I hope something will be done also for the A30-A3 connection, which doesn't have modern standards too.
Yes, the RA2 Avellino-Salerno is more similar to an expressway.

Does someone know the exact altitude of the highest point of the A3?
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Old November 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #4582
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Yes, the RA2 Avellino-Salerno is more similar to an expressway.

Does someone know the exact altitude of the highest point of the A3?
Around 1100, don't know the precise number.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #4583
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There's an 'Italia' viaduct/bridge on A3?
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:24 PM   #4584
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Yes, it's the highest in Italy (259 meters)

http://highestbridges.com/wiki/index...idges_in_Italy
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:32 PM   #4585
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That's impressive.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 09:37 PM   #4586
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Viadotto Sfalassà is more spectacular if you ask me.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 10:06 PM   #4587
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True, Italia is so high only on small part where it crosses narrow gorge. Mostly it is normally high viaduct (still quite high).
Sfallasà however crosses wide and deep valley and it is seen very good from nearby main road, town and coast whereas Italia sits in the middle of nowhere.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #4588
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that's some good ingeniering
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Old November 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #4589
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A diagram of the original construction design for Slafalassà Viaduct



And the original construcion pic
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Old November 18th, 2012, 01:25 PM   #4590
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Yes, it's the highest in Italy (259 meters)

http://highestbridges.com/wiki/index...idges_in_Italy
I thought that some viaducts on A1 motorway Firenze-Orte are about 100 meteres heigh. In this list above there is no such a bridge.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #4591
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Italia viaduct is the 2nd highest bridge in Europe after the famous Millau viaduct in France.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 09:34 PM   #4592
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I thought that some viaducts on A1 motorway Firenze-Orte are about 100 meteres heigh.
I don't remember any high viaduct on that route and I went there few times. There are some short tunnels but otherwise nothing spectacular.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:44 PM   #4593
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Today, 22nd November, at 18:00 (6pm) two small sections of new A34 (former RA17) are going to open. First section is the junction between current carriageway and the exit ramp "Sant'Andrea", for vehicles coming from Villesse towards Gorizia. Second section is autostrada proper in the same spot.

Lengths are not shown anywhere...
Am I correct in saying that the intention is to complete this upgrade as far as the Slovenian border at Gorizia?
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 07:52 PM   #4594
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Am I correct in saying that the intention is to complete this upgrade as far as the Slovenian border at Gorizia?
AFAIK the whole current RA17 will be upgraded to motorway standard (hence A34), from A4 to Slovenian border.
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Am I correct in saying that the intention is to complete this upgrade as far as the Slovenian border at Gorizia?
Yes. On the Slovenian side will remain the substandard expressway.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:11 PM   #4596
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It only lacks hard shoulders. With that low traffic they can be happy they have a 4-lane motorway/expressway at all.
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:30 PM   #4597
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It only lacks hard shoulders. With that low traffic they can be happy they have a 4-lane motorway/expressway at all.
In fact I can't see the reason for widening the Italian side
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Old November 22nd, 2012, 11:45 PM   #4598
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In fact I can't see the reason for widening the Italian side
Before it was very narrow, much more than its Slovenian counterpart. Until around 2005, when it was dismissed by ANAS and acquired by Autovie Venete S.p.A., it didn't even have a median, just a double solid white line. The junction of Farra d'Isonzo was accessible only from the carriageway north (you could enter only towards A4 and exit only if you came from Gorizia). The speed limit was just 80 while on the new H4 is 110.
It was built 40 years ago when standards were lower and there was very little cross-border traffic.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 03:51 PM   #4599
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Unless they widen it then it is way below spec for a motorway. I can see it in Streetview, there is no way that is a real motorway.
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Old November 23rd, 2012, 03:56 PM   #4600
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It would be interesting to know its AADT.
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