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Old December 7th, 2012, 05:17 PM   #4661
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A8 near Milano also has a nice view.

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Old December 7th, 2012, 11:11 PM   #4662
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It's about once every month, but given the right weather, it is a joy to leave town via the A8. Nice photo, by the way. When I lived in Milan, I've never managed to shoot this good a photo of the A8 and the mountains ...

The most distant mountain view that you can get in Italy, at least as far as I know, is on the A15. Driving into Parma, you can see the snow on the Alps on the other side of the Pianura. All on nice days only, of course.
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Old December 7th, 2012, 11:31 PM   #4663
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Driving into Parma, you can see the snow on the Alps on the other side of the Pianura. All on nice days only, of course.
On Italian wikipedia there's a composite pic of the Alps as seen from Loiano Observatory, in the Apennines watershed near Bologna, more than 250 km away:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...estPicture.jpg

PS: I used to work for that observatory, but I didn't take the pic.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 01:43 AM   #4664
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Old December 11th, 2012, 03:36 PM   #4665
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Works for Autostrada Nogara-Mare (linking A22, future A31, A13 and future Nuova Romea) are tendered to "Confederazione autostrade del Nord", a group of companies referring to Attilio Schneck and "Autostrada Brescia Verona Vicenza Padova S.p.A.". They can probably start at the end of 2013.

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Old December 11th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #4666
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Works for Autostrada Nogara-Mare (linking A22, future A31, A13 and future Nuova Romea) are tendered to "Confederazione autostrade del Nord", a group of companies referring to Attilio Schneck and "Autostrada Brescia Verona Vicenza Padova S.p.A.". They can probably start at the end of 2013.
The section Legnago - Rovigo is already open as SS434 (110kph expressway).
I really doubt that the yellow Brescia - Mestre expressway parallel to A4 (Sistema Tangenziali Venete) will ever be built, since is useless. It would be better to enlarge the A4 from 6 to 8 or even 10 lanes, even if traffic on A4 will decrease when the Pedemontana Veneta (Vicenza - Conegliano) and the Pedemontana Friulana (Pordenone - Gemona) will be ready (unfortunately the last one will remain on the paper for many years).

I think the most urgent projects for the north-east are a motorway from Mestre to Ravenna (the SS309 is always crowded and there are many accidents) and the completation of the A31 Vicenza - Trento.
But both won't be reality in less than 20 years.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #4667
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http://goo.gl/maps/nmIHU

How did that tractor get there? I bet it used the expressway.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:13 PM   #4668
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I think that under the overpass there is room to escape.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:15 PM   #4669
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Today's view of the Alps from A8...
I'm sorry for the quality: the pic was taken with a mobile phone.

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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #4670
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I noticed now that they lost further quality while uploading...
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:23 PM   #4671
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How did that tractor get there? I bet it used the expressway.
Very intriguing, there aren't other choises. I think it's a very complicated issue under the legal point of view, because on one side they have to let the landowner to access his propertry, but on the other, private accesses of any kind are illegal on limited-access highways.
Autovie Venete could have solved this problem by expropriating this piece of land.
Or maybe the tractor belong to Autovie Venete and they are planting new vegetation in what it will be the new junction (so the land is already their).

In this case, they built a private underpass to allow the owner to access his field (and it's not even an expressway, tractors can drive on it).
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I think that under the overpass there is room to escape.
Look carefully: even if you cross the underpass you'll get into another lot of land that is completely surrounded by the expressway and the ramp.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #4673
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Guys please answer me

Is these italian highways tolled ? Thanks.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #4674
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Guys please answer me

Is these italian highways tolled ? Thanks.
Which ones?
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Old December 11th, 2012, 10:30 PM   #4675
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Most, but not all motorways (Ax only routes, green signs) are tolled, other highways aren't.
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Old December 11th, 2012, 11:05 PM   #4676
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Very intriguing, there aren't other choises. I think it's a very complicated issue under the legal point of view, because on one side they have to let the landowner to access his propertry, but on the other, private accesses of any kind are illegal on limited-access highways.
Autovie Venete could have solved this problem by expropriating this piece of land.
Or maybe the tractor belong to Autovie Venete and they are planting new vegetation in what it will be the new junction (so the land is already their).

In this case, they built a private underpass to allow the owner to access his field (and it's not even an expressway, tractors can drive on it).
I hope the land is already theirs, otherwise that tractor will have to use the future A34 motorway. Ok, if it goes towards the border crossing, it isn't such a problem, because the speed limit there is 50 km/h anyway, but between Gradisca and this roundabout it's 80 km/h (and 130 km/h in the future). Unless it crossed the road here.

Yeah, they were probably planting new vegetation (October 2010), because there was just high grass there one month earlier (September 2010), not a field or something like that.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:45 AM   #4677
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I noticed now that they lost further quality while uploading...
thanks for sharing. just make photos smaller and it should look better.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:20 AM   #4678
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I was sure to have resized them, but I was evidently wrong!
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Old December 12th, 2012, 12:09 PM   #4679
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There is also very impressive view of Monte Viso on large part A4 between Milano and Torino. It looks like great volcano behind Torino. If you're lucky with clear winter weather (in my case just 1 in 5 trips).


View from Tangenziale di Torino. The highest peak is the "Monviso" (About 3.800 meters high)

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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:56 PM   #4680
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nice! 3800m looks really high.
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