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Old April 1st, 2008, 02:26 PM   #461
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I heard a couple of years ago that they were closing a motorway viaduct in the city centre of Rome and they were going to demolish it. Which viaduct?
Tangenziale Est viaduct

I posted some pics of it in the past; they are bulding an alternative run with tunnels
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Old April 5th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #462
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Some new updates of the new viaduct under completion in Padua :

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driving over them...

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Old April 12th, 2008, 02:41 PM   #463
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hi, knows anybody if the superstrada from Lecce to Maglie are ready?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 07:38 PM   #464
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hi, knows anybody if the superstrada from Lecce to Maglie are ready?
It seems so... at least it's indicated as completed on the ViaMichelin map website, which has been updated very recently : Map click here...
Weirdly, the map doesn't indicate the Lecce orbital highway as being up to expressway standard, unlike the radiating expressways... any explanation to this ?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 09:55 PM   #465
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According to Google Earth it's partly just 2-laned. If it were fully expressway/motorway, it would be Europe's smallest city with an expressway/motorway ring.
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Old April 12th, 2008, 11:51 PM   #466
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http://www.viamichelin.fr/viamicheli...1&empriseH=566

Is there really a motorway or expressway under construction or planned southwest of Udine?
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Old April 12th, 2008, 11:53 PM   #467
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I think it's just a 4 lane highway. Strada Statale
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Old April 13th, 2008, 12:13 AM   #468
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Haven't heard of anything such UC or planned either. It would be extension of the southern Udine bypass.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:05 PM   #469
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Part of the future Mestre (Venice) bypass (between A4 and A27). ABRob has already seen it.

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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #470
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Edges in curves? Who the hell designed that road? No room to pull over all the time either, though there seems to be a lot of SOS lots. The quality of the pavement seems to be very good. How come there's zero traffic?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #471
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Edges in curves? Who the hell designed that road? No room to pull over all the time either, though there seems to be a lot of SOS lots.
What do you mean? There's emergency lane all the time. And what do you mean with "edges in curves"?

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How come there's zero traffic?
Maybe it was such time of the day, and I doubt there's much traffic between Belluno and Trieste.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM   #472
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According to Google Earth it's partly just 2-laned. If it were fully expressway/motorway, it would be Europe's smallest city with an expressway/motorway ring.
Érd (SW of Budapest) will surpass it:
it is surrounded by M7-M0-M6 and this 3/4 ring will be closed by the future M11...
(pop.: ~70.000)
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Old May 17th, 2008, 06:03 PM   #473
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Maybe it was such time of the day, and I doubt there's much traffic between Belluno and Trieste.
It looks shinier than even the almighty Struma!

The traffic levels are that low because this is just the first small segment of the bypass. When will the rest be completed?
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Old May 17th, 2008, 06:34 PM   #474
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And what do you mean with "edges in curves"?
In the first part of the video, when he/she enters the freeway, you'll see that the curve is not nice round, but has edges in the road markings. That seems strange and unnecessary to me, however, it's just a minor thing.
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Oh that; you're right. It's not so important though. The rest of it looks very well to me, very spruced up.
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I though, that Chris wouldn't complain about "edges". Don't you work with traffic issues?

This is only a very small part of new motorway A4 around Mestre, which will (hopefully) be opened this year. That edges are only temporary, because this will be later main direction and not that, where truck and 99,9% of other vehicles went in first seconds of video. So that part around edges will be reconstructed later, as you can see in reserved space on right side of those "edges". Also, I think, that on first part of bypass final layer of asphalt is not laid yet. So don't worry about edges, they will disappear next year. And traffic will also increase for about 10000%.

Nice to see so many SOS-niches, they seem to be spaced much more dense than it is usual on Italian autostradas (I'd rather not compare to the rest of Europe). Hard shoulders are standard 2,5 m wide as elsewhere in Italy.
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Why are shoulders so substandard in Italy? You cannot change a tire on them, since you would be hit by cars. Let alone a truck with a breakdown, you need a lane closure to do that safely. I also see that there are a lot of guardrails immediatly next to the shoulder.

So why is Italy opting for SOS lots instead of hard shoulders?
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Old May 18th, 2008, 01:12 AM   #478
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Actually 2,5 m wide hard shoulder is pretty common standard in rest of Europe (except few countries).

And second question ... yes, SOS lots are to be used instead, except in extreme emergency. On autostradas there is every 200 meters (about there) distance written on hard shoulder to closest SOS lot (usually with telephone).

I used such SOS niche last year in emergency and believe me, it is much easier to jump around the car knowing, that I have at least 3 meters to closest speeding vehicle. Austrians already recognized usefulness of such SOS lots beside hard shoulder, so they started building them on new motorways.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 01:21 AM   #479
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This is only a very small part of new motorway A4 around Mestre, which will (hopefully) be opened this year.
You're not telling me they've already dug that 9-km tunnel bypassing Mestre. This simply can't be true.
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Opening is (was) planned for december this year. That was discussed last year in this thread.

I plan to go by Mestre in a month or two (I hope), then I could report how much is done. As I know, part west of Mestre will be finished at the latest.

Sorry, what 9-km long tunnel?

http://passante.provincia.venezia.it/i_numeri.asp
Doesn't say anything about "galeria".
Only 1,4 km of ecoducts and altogether 10 km of "walled" motorway

Plan:
http://www.comune.mirano.ve.it/passa...D-PG-PL-01.pdf
http://www.comune.mirano.ve.it/passa...D-PG-PL-02.pdf (see right part for already opened section)

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