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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #4781
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The Pistoia racc. is missing as well.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:17 PM   #4782
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More expressways in North East Italy:
East Padova bypass 12km
North Padova bypass 7,7km
West Padova bypass 12km
South Padova bypass 3km
SP47 Limena bypass 6,7km
East Verona bypass 5,3km
North Verona bypass 9,3km
South Verona bypass 16,5km
South Vicenza bypass 7,2km
SR53 South Treviso bypass 9km
SS676 South Udine bypass 6,3km
RA16 East Pordenone bypass 3,8km
NSA56 Sistiana - A4 1km
NSA326 Trieste - SLO 4,6km (SS15 refers to the old road, not the expressway)
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:19 PM   #4783
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A1 - Perugia is included in the E45 mileage.
What? E45 passes by Perugia but in N-S direction (SS3 bis Ravenna -Orte). RA6 is a different road.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #4784
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I see. I included that in SS326 (Siena - Perugia 101 km)
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:25 PM   #4785
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SS47 Trento - Bassano del Grappa is partly expressway and partly 1+1. Good luck to calculate the lenght of expressway segments.
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:35 PM   #4786
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SR450 (A4-A22 missing link) 13,3km
SS80racc (A14-A24 missing link) 15,8km
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:44 PM   #4787
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The SS 629 / SP 54 is dual carriageway, but with flat junctions, although less than if it were a normal road:

http://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Laveno&...talia&t=k&z=18

I don't know how to consider it, as it has some expressway/superstrada characteristics...Google draws it as a normal main road (in yellow).
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Old December 28th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #4788
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If it has at-grade junction, it shouldn't be counted.
For this purpose I like Openstreetmaps, it's very updated and expressways are signed differently.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:42 AM   #4789
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Do the Trieste and Genova elevated expressways count?
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Old December 29th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #4790
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I updated the list. I got to 2753 kilometers now.

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Do the Trieste and Genova elevated expressways count?
While they are grade-separated and at least 2x2, their speed limit is very low (60 km/h) and if I understand correctly mopeds are allowed as well. I think I leave those out.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #4791
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SS76 has another superstrada section, although Google maps don't render it as such. It's the 13 km section between Borgo Tufico and Cancelli di Fabriano. At the end of 2015 the whole 74 km SS 76 will be upgraded to superstrada.

http://goo.gl/maps/pk8JL

SS 3 Flaminia has also some superstrada sections: Foligno-Spoleto and Acqualagna-E78.

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Old December 29th, 2012, 01:38 PM   #4792
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If it has at-grade junction, it shouldn't be counted.
For this purpose I like Openstreetmaps, it's very updated and expressways are signed differently.
Yes but OSM is sometimes wrong. SS 510 Sebina Orientale is shown as superstrada but it's actually not.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 01:52 PM   #4793
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I updated the list. I got to 2753 kilometers now.

While they are grade-separated and at least 2x2, their speed limit is very low (60 km/h) and if I understand correctly mopeds are allowed as well. I think I leave those out.
Trieste sopraelevata has a limit of 80 and it's a real expressway. Mopeds aren't allowed. I think it should be included.

EDIT: mopeds aren't allowed in Genoa sopraelevata too.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 02:02 PM   #4794
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Yes but OSM is sometimes wrong. SS 510 Sebina Orientale is shown as superstrada but it's actually not.
Fortunately our countries is entirely covered by street view, so determining if a road is an expressway or not isn't so difficult.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:07 PM   #4795
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There is also the Tangenziale di Reggio Calabria.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 04:35 PM   #4796
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You forgot Sicily:
- Catania - Paterno'
- Asse attrezzato Catania
- Augusta - Siracusa (de facto A18 motorway)
- A20 - Milazzo
- Palermo beltway (A19 - A29)
- parts of the future Caltanissetta - Agrigento expressway are already opened
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Old December 29th, 2012, 04:52 PM   #4797
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As for Puglia, the following must be mentioned as well:

SS 16 Bari Tangenziale (3+3 lanes)
SS 16 Bari - Fasano (even though the segment Bari - Torre A Mare is really an urban 4 lane road with 70 km/h limit)
SS 379 Fasano - Brindisi
SS 664 Copertino - Maglie (limited to 90 km/h)
SS 274 Gallipoli - Taviano (limited to 90 km/h)

EDIT: forgot about the Lecce expressway ring, SS 694 or NSA 71 (even if half of it is not managed by the ANAS)
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Old December 29th, 2012, 05:03 PM   #4798
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press the left arrow

https://maps.google.si/maps?saddr=Ra...,40.68,,0,7.05
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Old December 29th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #4799
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SS16 has some expressway sections:
Ravenna bypass
Cesenatico - Rimini
Pescara bypass 14km

In Abruzzo there's RA12 Chieti - Pescara 14,8km

Molise: SS85var Venafro bypass 8,7km. Only existing part of the planned Termoli - San Vittore motorway.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 05:51 PM   #4800
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that an interesting expressway it could go to abandoned roads thread

https://maps.google.si/maps?q=SS16&h...,335.7,,0,4.02
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