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Old January 20th, 2013, 05:06 PM   #4941
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But those limits are just until Savona, where they widened the road to 3 lanes without physically expanding it.

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Old January 20th, 2013, 05:23 PM   #4942
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Old pictues of Autostrade

This website has some quite informative material and nice pics, though it is mostly dedicated to railways

A10 - Arazze. The highway had one lane per direction and 1 central lane for overtaking (both directions allowed). Extremely deadly design


Later, they transformed it on a 1+2 highway until they built a second carriageway in the 1975-1977


A6 Torino-Savona was built the same way but it gained a second carriageway only in the 1990s

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A7 x A10 iconic interchange u/c in 1967
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Old January 20th, 2013, 05:28 PM   #4943
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On the same website, there is also a set of maps showing the evolution of Italian highway network

The underlying map is from 1992, hence some "under construction" highways long completed shown as such

red = opened since last date
green = already opened before last date

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Old January 20th, 2013, 06:12 PM   #4944
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Sometimes they're a bit slow to take down these construction-site speed limits. A14 south of Ancona, once enlarged to 2x3, had 100 km/h speed limit for more than a year after completion.

But yes, generally speaking motorway tunnels have no different limits from the general motorway one. Even the 10+ km Gran Sasso tunnels have 130 km/h limit.
Don't remember the A5 north of Aosta, but if Road_UK says they're limited it must be so, then. Some parts of Genova-Ventimiglia are definitely limited: Albissola-Genova Voltri section is limited to 80 km/h.
I remember the time when they weren't limited, and blasting through these tunnels was fun! These days you have to be careful doing that, as at the end of some tunnels there are hidden laybys with a Polizia Stradale vehicle on it and inside are officers with really cool sunglasses waiting to **** up your day real good.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 08:35 PM   #4945
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But yes, generally speaking motorway tunnels have no different limits from the general motorway one. Even the 10+ km Gran Sasso tunnels have 130 km/h limit.
Don't remember the A5 north of Aosta, but if Road_UK says they're limited it must be so, then. Some parts of Genova-Ventimiglia are definitely limited: Albissola-Genova Voltri section is limited to 80 km/h.
i feel so dumb now
i crawled through it 80-90 km/h because i was sure there was such speed limit
ok, now seriously - maybe it's because i got used to drive 80-100 through tunnels, but i don't feel safe driving 130 there.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 08:50 PM   #4946
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i feel so dumb now
i crawled through it 80-90 km/h because i was sure there was such speed limit
ok, now seriously - maybe it's because i got used to drive 80-100 through tunnels, but i don't feel safe driving 130 there.
But it's fun...
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But it's fun...
i actually don't have balls to do it. not because of safety, (once i drove through Mala Kapela tunnel at 2 in the morning, i was probably the only person in the whole tunnel so i could easily do 150 if i wanted to) but because of speed traps.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 12:23 AM   #4948
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I remember the time when they weren't limited, and blasting through these tunnels was fun! These days you have to be careful doing that, as at the end of some tunnels there are hidden laybys with a Polizia Stradale vehicle on it and inside are officers with really cool sunglasses waiting to **** up your day real good.
The 130 km/h limit there was short lived, then. That section was opened between 2001 and 2007.
I drove only once there, last spring. I didn't feel they needed a stricter limit. Quite the opposite of A32 Frejus-Torino: I didn't feel safe speeding there.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 11:37 AM   #4949
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When I came home from Domodossola to Busto Arsizio a friend of mine drove through the A26 (the famous "Tunnels' Motorway") at an average speed of 150 km/h.

It was really funny but now I am only waiting the ticket HE'll pay!
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Old January 21st, 2013, 12:38 PM   #4950
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The speed limit on A22 from Brenner/Brenero to Bolzano/Bozen is 110 km/h, tunnels included. (I drove there in December 2011.) And the Safety Tutor masts there (in Alto Adige Regione) are rare, perhaps one at every 30-40 kms.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 07:07 PM   #4951
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i actually don't have balls to do it. not because of safety, (once i drove through Mala Kapela tunnel at 2 in the morning, i was probably the only person in the whole tunnel so i could easily do 150 if i wanted to) but because of speed traps.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 11:30 PM   #4952
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Old January 24th, 2013, 12:49 PM   #4954
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Is this a new alignment or an improvement over an existing road?
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Is this a new alignment or an improvement over an existing road?
Mixed: some new sectors, some that were upgraded (farm roads giving access to it closed, grade separation etc)

The western slopes of the Etna are very beautiful overt there
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Old January 26th, 2013, 01:27 PM   #4956
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Africa? Well almost. Palermo.

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Africa? Well almost. Palermo.
I didn't know you were from Northern Italy
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This is the place: http://goo.gl/maps/deYmj

It is an access road to A19. They are rebuilding the place with local lanes, which is why you see access ramps closed with concrete barriers (but no excuses for trash )
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Well, it's on the African tectonic plate.
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This is the place: http://goo.gl/maps/deYmj

It is an access road to A19. They are rebuilding the place with local lanes, which is why you see access ramps closed with concrete barriers (but no excuses for trash )
This is something that's always struck me: the amount of trash beside roads in the South. During my month stay in Apulia I've seen them all: overflowing dumpsters, emergency bays in superstrade transformed into trash bins, people launching garbage from the window of their running cars... I simply cannot understand.

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Well, it's on the African tectonic plate.
Lol, but more seriously, Italy has 3 islands located onto African tectonic plate: Pantelleria, Lampedusa and Lampione, but interestingly enough, not Linosa, even if it's part of the same archipelago with Lampedusa and Lampione.
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