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Old April 1st, 2013, 10:45 PM   #5101
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Unusual 1+1 divided road near Verona
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Old April 4th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #5102
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The 1.8 km tunnel on the SS 36 through Monza has been inaugurated today. One carriageway has been opened today (don't ask which one), the other will follow tomorrow.

Some photos of local politicians here, with from time to time also photos of what they inaugurated: http://milano.corriere.it/gallery/mi...60f3c7.shtml#1
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Old April 4th, 2013, 07:04 AM   #5103
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So SS36 is finally connected to the Italian motorway network.
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Old April 4th, 2013, 01:42 PM   #5104
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The 1.8 km tunnel on the SS 36 through Monza has been inaugurated today. One carriageway has been opened today (don't ask which one), the other will follow tomorrow.

Some photos of local politicians here, with from time to time also photos of what they inaugurated: http://milano.corriere.it/gallery/mi...60f3c7.shtml#1
... and already 20-minutes queue on the first day. This is Italian-style construction: open something, even when it's not finished yet.

http://milano.corriere.it/gallery/mi...48d6d7eb.shtml
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Old April 5th, 2013, 09:31 AM   #5105
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Manacva la tua perla di saggezza quotidiana...
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Old April 8th, 2013, 12:14 PM   #5106
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Italian A9 is closed northbound due to this:

http://video.corriere.it/assalto-por...a-0540f7c490c5

Military-style commando attacked an armoured van for money transferring and set it on fire.

The ten-people-commando fled the scene with 10 million euro.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 02:54 PM   #5107
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And then?

The daily bullsht is served...

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Old April 8th, 2013, 10:09 PM   #5108
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I didn't know Yugoslavia had been signed in English in Italy (with "Y").

http://goo.gl/maps/fD3z6
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:34 PM   #5109
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I didn't know Yugoslavia had been signed in English in Italy (with "Y").

http://goo.gl/maps/fD3z6
I passed there many times and never noticed.
Maybe because the official country code was YU (it was posted on signs too). However in Italian we write Jugoslavia or even Iugoslavia.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #5110
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Just gave a look to the history of the user 2 posts above: half of his posts are obvious trolling, I wonder how can such stuff remain undeleted.
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Old April 8th, 2013, 11:46 PM   #5111
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I put him in my ignore list long time ago, so his posts just won't show up for me.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 01:04 AM   #5112
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I passed there many times and never noticed.
Maybe because the official country code was YU (it was posted on signs too). However in Italian we write Jugoslavia or even Iugoslavia.
Have you noticed that A1 is signed further down the road instead of A4?
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Old April 9th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #5113
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In the past there was a sign pointing to the A1 (instead of A4) on this roundabout.
And in this panel there was "A14 Trieste" and "A14 Venezia".

Fortunately A1 and A14 aren't anywhere near this area. Imagine how bad it would be if they mixed up A1 and A14 near Bologna or A1 and A4 near Milan.

EDIT: my links point to maps.google.si because I navigated Google Maps from Verso's link.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 01:59 AM   #5114
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I was wondering if there are other places in the world where 2 road tunnels cross each other at different levels.
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...21136&t=m&z=16
Originally they weren't intended to be road tunnels as they were built as bomb shelters during WWII. Many tunnels like them exist in Trieste (they're known as "Kleine Berlin" complex) but those were only that were opened fr road traffic (in 1949).
Other 2 road tunnels exist in Trieste, they opened in 1907 and 1912 ad were initially used for an electric streetcar.

Some closed WWII tunnel.
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...4,,0,1.01&z=16
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...,,0,-1.01&z=18 (the right one is a WWII museum, the left is converted into a repair garage )
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...,,1,-3.33&z=17
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...4,,0,1.17&z=17
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...,,0,-3.47&z=18
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Old April 9th, 2013, 02:11 AM   #5115
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EDIT: my links point to maps.google.si because I navigated Google Maps from Verso's link.
no need to apologize you are encouraged to continue doing so
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Old April 9th, 2013, 03:50 AM   #5116
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I was wondering if there are other places in the world where 2 road tunnels cross each other at different levels.
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...21136&t=m&z=16
Interesting. I thought it was the same on the highest Slovenian road, but it turns out it isn't. Still, it's an interesting mishmash built by Italians.
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Old April 9th, 2013, 10:56 AM   #5117
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I was wondering if there are other places in the world where 2 road tunnels cross each other at different levels.
http://maps.google.si/maps?hl=sl&ll=...21136&t=m&z=16
Here you are:

http://goo.gl/maps/q4ouo

http://goo.gl/maps/q2kBF
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Old April 10th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #5118
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Another in Genova:
https://maps.google.si/maps?q=sal%C3...alija&t=m&z=17

Exit Celle Ligure on A10:
https://maps.google.si/maps?q=sal%C3...alija&t=m&z=17

And I believe that there are more such examples on Italian motorways.

Also new railway Genova-Ventimiglia crosses underground under many A10 tunnels. Tunnels on different levels are not very rare actually and also nothing special in engineering sense.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #5119
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Highway A19 Palermo-Catania (Sicily)


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Old April 10th, 2013, 01:19 AM   #5120
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This highway is known for have been built on on long (and thus expensive) viaducts even in relatively-flat areas where they aren't needed. It probably happened because ANAS wanted to give more job to some "friend" construction companies and consequentely the construction costs paid with public money skyrocketted.

However, very beautiful landscape, I travelled from Catania to Caltanissetta in 2009 and remember those stunning views, much different than the green Alps and northern Appennines.
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