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Old June 11th, 2008, 08:45 PM   #501
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this is the entire expressway (blue color) :

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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:24 AM   #502
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Is the connection between SS202 in Trieste and SLO border already completed?
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Old June 21st, 2008, 05:01 PM   #503
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Not yet. Probably I'll check construction pace in Monday, maybe there is some news. As I know, they still work in the tunnel around Aquilina.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 05:21 PM   #504
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Is the connection between SS202 in Trieste and SLO border already completed?
Only 0.5 km by the border. It should be completed this year.

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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #505
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but not in 2 weeks time?
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Old June 22nd, 2008, 12:58 AM   #506
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^ No, not really. If I get it right, it should open on the 5th October and the remaining part of the Trieste bypass in November. Here's a video in Italian (12.06., choose realPlayer (by "izbira privzetega predvajalnika in kvalitete") and scroll to 13:44).
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:00 AM   #507
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Only 0.5 km by the border. It should be completed this year.
Finally barriers were installed on overpasses of interconnection between Trieste bypass and new motorway. Still no signs of immediate completion.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #508
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Érd (SW of Budapest) will surpass it:
it is surrounded by M7-M0-M6 and this 3/4 ring will be closed by the future M11...
(pop.: ~70.000)
Actually it is conurbated with Budapest... it's a bit different situation

Anyway in Italy there are smaller cities that are going to have their own expressway ring...
For istance Benevento (in Campania Region) which has about 63.000 inhabitants

http://maps.google.com/maps?key=ABQI...73729&t=h&z=14
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Old June 24th, 2008, 07:24 PM   #509
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So Padova has a complete motorway/expressway ring/orbital/beltway?
Ok... let's try to list cities with an expressway/highway ring

Obviously Rome and Milan wich are planning second and third belts, not Naples just because it is a coastal city but it has a very dense highway/motorway web... strangely not Turin just because in its SE part it is hilly and with pratically no inhabitants, any way they're planning to close the ring...

Anyway...

Rome http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=41.89...sc&ct=api_logo

Milan http://maps.google.com/maps?key=ABQI...,0.589828&z=11

Padova http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=45.40...sc&ct=api_logo

Parma http://maps.google.com/maps?key=ABQI...,0.147457&z=13

Lecce http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.35...sc&ct=api_logo

I think those are the cities with a well defined ring completed (lack of major cities... but that's not strange: apart Rome, Milan, Turin, Bologna and Florence, other big cities are coastal: Naples, Palermo, Genova, Venezia, Bari, Catania...)

many others have a not completed ring

Of those ones a coupple which are going to complete the ring soon

Modena http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.64...sc&ct=api_logo

Alessandria http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.90...sc&ct=api_logo
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Old June 24th, 2008, 07:41 PM   #510
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Pavia (70.000 ab) has not a completed ring, but upgraded with the "Tangenziale Nord", a northern section of its expressways system, some months ago.

http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&hl=it...,0.177841&z=13

It lacks of the southern section.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 08:19 PM   #511
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Thanks for the compilation! So the Lecce ring has really been twinned in its entirety, or it's a mistake?
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Old June 25th, 2008, 12:52 AM   #512
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Pavia (70.000 ab) has not a completed ring, but upgraded with the "Tangenziale Nord", a northern section of its expressways system, some months ago.

http://maps.google.it/maps?f=q&hl=it...,0.177841&z=13

It lacks of the southern section.
There are other cities in the same 'conditions': Novara and Verona, for istance
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Old June 25th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #513
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Thanks for the compilation! So the Lecce ring has really been twinned in its entirety, or it's a mistake?
I think it is... sat google pics on Lecce are outdated...
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Old June 25th, 2008, 12:56 PM   #514
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A4 Milano-Bergamo



Experience a run on it (cool video)

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Old June 25th, 2008, 01:06 PM   #515
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I love this section. All those new sound barriers and overpases (especially the railway one) are just great. And there's a section with the smoothest pavement I've ever seen.
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OMG, what kind of geek did the video!?
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Old June 25th, 2008, 04:52 PM   #517
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Nice video.

Why is Italy about the only country that add narrow shoulders and SOS lots, instead of fullsize shoulders?
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Old June 25th, 2008, 04:53 PM   #518
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OMG, what kind of geek did the video!?
Mmmh... going from Agrate to Bergamo by bus, he is German... anyone who flew on Orio Al Serio by AirBerlin?
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Nice video.

Why is Italy about the only country that add narrow shoulders and SOS lots, instead of fullsize shoulders?
Generally this is a classical section of an Italian two lanes + emergency lane highway

[IMG]http://i31.************/2lu9ith.jpg[/IMG]

Run lanes are 3.75 m and emergency lane 3 m... in the rest of Europe width is the same or even less; maybe yours is just an impression (maybe due to marks?)

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Take a look at this comparison between German autobahn and US highways http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/autobahn/

In particular:

Lane Width
US: 3.66m minimum - DE: 3m minimum - (I: 3.75m)

Right shoulder (emergency lane) width
US: 3.05m minimum - DE: Generally 2.6m - (I: Generally 3m)

Left shoulder width
US: 3.05m minimum - DE: Generally there is no left shoulder - (I: Generally there is no left shoulder )
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Old June 25th, 2008, 06:09 PM   #520
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Maybe it looks narrow because of the barriers right next to it. I wouldn't stop my car there for the world.
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