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Old July 9th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #5561
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A5 is a quite interesting route. When driving on direction Aosta, you can hear all the trucks using their retard-brakes and what else.

A32 has better views and less tunnels. Its completion is also much more recent. However, it bothers me they use a plaza toll system there.
Well, not really. A32 was basically complete by 1997, while A5 Aosta-Monte Bianco was opened between 1994 and 2007.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #5562
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Until then, it makes not much difference, though I've been stuck behind a very slow moving truck once at speeds on the 20 km/h range
I've check with google street... on the hairpin bend the speed limit is 30 Km/h!!
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Old July 9th, 2013, 03:10 PM   #5563
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The A5 does not end where the Mont Blanc Tunnel begins, but where the T1 "motorway" begins.
Not exactly. The road between the end of the A5 and the tunnel is numbered SS26dir.
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Courma...12.89,,1,-0.05
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:12 PM   #5564
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I discovered a place where you can enter\leave the SS3bis\E45 expressway without using an official exit! Through the parking lot of the Hotel Letizià near Cesena.
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Hotel+...,169.2,,0,0.37

https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Hotel+...,64.14,,0,7.68
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:28 PM   #5565
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well it's not a tolled motorway, what's the problem? :-)
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #5566
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well it's not a tolled motorway, what's the problem? :-)
It's not usual on expressways (controlled-access roads), I don't think there are many places like this.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:36 PM   #5567
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I don't think it's that rare either, especially on Expressways that are built by upgrading existing roads.

Here's one on SS 106

https://maps.google.it/?ll=40.437561...04823&t=h&z=18
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Old July 9th, 2013, 04:39 PM   #5568
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There are a few examples of exit possibilities at service areas.
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Old July 9th, 2013, 11:42 PM   #5569
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Not exactly. The road between the end of the A5 and the tunnel is numbered SS26dir.
https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Courma...12.89,,1,-0.05
Google shows it as T1 or E25: https://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Courma...talia&t=m&z=16

Yet another Google mistake...
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Old July 10th, 2013, 12:06 AM   #5570
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Google shows it as T1 or E25: https://maps.google.ch/maps?q=Courma...talia&t=m&z=16

Yet another Google mistake...
Don't trust Google too much, especially in relation of road numbers and state borders.

Edit: the section between the tunnel and the harpin turn is indeed T1 (you can see it by this green sign). The section between the harpin turn and the A5 is SS26dir (this blue signs states it ends\begins in this point).

However the Italian Google did a mistake with labelling the tunnel as "Superstrada Traforo del Monte Bianco", while it isn't a superstrada at all.

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Old July 11th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #5571
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According to Google maps, Raccordo Autostradale Ospitaletto-Montichiari, aka Corda Molle, aka A21 racc, is called "Rec Rope Springs" (??!??!??)

https://maps.google.it/?ll=45.472892...62392&t=m&z=12

What do they smoke over there?

EDIT: Now I understand! "Corda molle", literally means "slack rope", but "molle" also means springs, like this:


They just literally translated - wrongly - the road's nickname... OMFG...
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Old July 11th, 2013, 07:00 PM   #5572
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Few years ago, on the A1 near Bologna there was a misplaces label "Autostrada Salerno - Reggio Calabria." I guess they corrected it pretty soon.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 08:49 PM   #5573
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Some old signs along R3 entrances used to have the autostrada symbol and then SA-RC.

First time I drove myself alone on A3 was in 2004 I think. It was a bit of a scary experience.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 12:39 AM   #5574
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On the contrary for me, it was really interesting experience in 2007, nothing scary. It gave me a feeling of really old motorway, quite integrated in surrounding enviroment, not something like new wide behemoths.

A3 Napoli-Salerno was even better - like a rollercoaster with very narrow lanes, winding between various construction sites, expanding sometimes to wide 2x3+hard shoulder for a kilometer or so. Dense and chaotic Napolitan traffic added to scary experience at first, later then just pure fun.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #5575
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Via dei Fori Imperiali in Rome (the part between the Colosseo and the junction with Via Cavour) will be closed to motorized traffic since 30th July.
http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/ambien...trari-1614969/
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Old July 14th, 2013, 03:15 PM   #5576
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to private motorized traffic.

Buses, taxis, VVFF, Polizia, CC, CRI, ambulances, doctors in emergency service, EI, AM, MM, SMOM, SCV, CD, auto blu will still be able to run freely in that road.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 05:51 PM   #5577
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Via dei Fori Imperiali in Rome (the part between the Colosseo and the junction with Via Cavour) will be closed to motorized traffic since 30th July.
http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/ambien...trari-1614969/
To protect the colysseum from pollution?

Is the traffic much affected with that measure?
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Old July 14th, 2013, 05:54 PM   #5578
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Forget it. It's been edited. I'm tired and my spelling is horrible. I wasn't being nasty, just can't be bothered.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #5579
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To protect the colysseum from pollution?
Well, not only for that. Actually, not at all for that, since via dei Fori Imperiali touches colosseo just for 10% of the total square. The other road, via Celio Vibenna, will be open.

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Yes.
The road will be closed for public transport and tourism reason: despite it is in the middle of the city, it is one of the most important road of connection between north-east and south-west Rome.
Closing it means that you have to find other ways to reach your destination, ways that may imply more km or more traffic: people, in this way, will be "forced" to use public transport.

Moreover, in June roadworks for the new station of Metro C started, and the road has been closed for 50% to leave space to work.

Still now, Fori Imperiali is closed on Sundays and public holydays, the mayor decided to "improve" this to 24/7.

Actually, in the next future, both the tramway and the subway will go through via dei Fori Imperiali, so there will be no need to use car there.
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Old July 15th, 2013, 03:20 PM   #5580
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Moreover, in June roadworks for the new station of Metro C started, and the road has been closed for 50% to leave space to work.
Small offtopic:
The line is currently under construction. Its opening has been delayed until sometime in the next millenium, at the earliest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_C_%28Rome_Metro%29

It appears that Rome is really an eternal city, where big constructions take millennia to complete
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