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Old July 24th, 2013, 03:21 PM   #5601
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Work has begun on the new toll of Ventimiglia on the A 10 Genoa-Ventimiglia (border with France) in Italy.
24-lane, 155-meter-long, cost € 30 million
New parking for trucks, new toll for Ventimiglia, new service center and shelter vehicles. End of construction 2015.

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Old July 25th, 2013, 03:42 PM   #5602
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I will show you some pictures from my Roadtrip trough the EU+EFTA from 15/07/13 until 19/07/13.
A32 - A4 - A4/26 - A26 - A4 - RA13 - SS15















































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Old July 27th, 2013, 01:05 AM   #5603
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A3 Salerno-Reggio Calabria, Anas opens another 18 km
26/07/2013

Complete the viaduct "Favazzina", in Bagnara. Pietro Ciucci: V macrolotto V also completed the new highway

Anas opened to traffic today another 18 km of new motorway Salerno-Reggio Calabria, of which about 10 km completion of 'V Macrolotto', about 5 km in the 'VI Macrolotto', in the province of Reggio Calabria, and 3 km in the lot between Lamezia Terme and the stream Randace, in the province of Catanzaro.

http://www.stradeanas.it/index.php?/...taglio/id/3732
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Old July 29th, 2013, 06:54 AM   #5604
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At least 37 people have been killed in southern
Italy when a coach plunged 30m (98ft) down a
steep slope, rescue services have said.
The coach hit several vehicles before coming off
a flyover near the town of Avellino, in the
Campania region.
At least 11 people have been injured, some of
them seriously, the Italian news agency Ansa
reported.
The coach was taking about 50 people, including
children, back to Naples following a pilgrimage,
reports say.
The cause of the accident is not clear.
TV footage showed smashed vehicles on the
flyover and shrouded bodies lined up by the side
of a road.
The driver of the coach is said to be among the
dead.
"The situation is critical," leading fireman
Pellegrino Iandolo told Italian television.
"Our men are working to save as many lives as
possible."
A police spokesman told the French news agency
AFP that the number of victims could not yet be
confirmed.
"We are still pulling people from the vehicle," he
said.
He added that the Naples-Bari motorway had
been closed to traffic because of the accident.
Reports say the bus smashed through a guardrail
on the flyover. It came to rest in heavy
undergrowth, which is hampering the rescue
operation.
The injured have been taken to hospitals in
Avellino, Salerno and Nola, Ansa said.

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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:20 AM   #5605
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According to news reports that should happen somewhere here:
https://maps.google.com/?ll=40.91085...23.45,,0,11.81
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:22 AM   #5607
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Here are some pics of this tragedy:

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/201.../?ref=HREA-1#1
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:29 AM   #5608
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This should not happen - those barriers must hold easily any normal road vehicle from breaking through.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:38 AM   #5609
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Well, you know, it was a 20 tons heavy bus travelling at around 90 km/h and hitting the jersey barrier with a quite tight corner.

Maybe those barriers were not exactly the most suiting type for a flyover. In most of Italian highways have been installed double-rails guard rails. Mainly for preventing motorbikes riders and ejected drivers from being beheaded.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 12:09 PM   #5610
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What a tragedy

I though that concrete crashbarriers ("New Jersey barriers") were safer than steel guard rail in case of high-speed collisions with heavy vehicles.

This is what happened 5 years ago on the A4 near Cessalto with double steel guard rails.


I cannot forget it, if I only think that I passed there just 3 hours before...
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Old July 29th, 2013, 12:30 PM   #5611
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but the bus didnt hit barrier at 90kmh, did it? As I read it touched the cars in front first.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 12:50 PM   #5612
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Well, you know, it was a 20 tons heavy bus travelling at around 90 km/h and hitting the jersey barrier with a quite tight corner.
Those jersey barriers must be designed to hold such vehicle with ease, even a 40 ton truck at full speed. It also appears that crash happened in the right corner on the right side.
As I see on the picture, barrier itself did not break but latches that fix barrier into position did.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 03:56 PM   #5613
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What a tragedy

I though that concrete crashbarriers ("New Jersey barriers") were safer than steel guard rail in case of high-speed collisions with heavy vehicles.

This is what happened 5 years ago on the A4 near Cessalto with double steel guard rails.


I cannot forget it, if I only think that I passed there just 3 hours before...
Thats not true. When this crash happened, there was only normal steel gurad rail, nothing special. You can see this even on street view.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.70603...30.84,,0,10.48

And than after this crash, Autovie Venete have instaled "new jersey" barriers from Portogruaro to Cesalto.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.71852...263.61,,0,6.64

The rest of A4 trieste-venezia have massive double guard rail.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 04:50 PM   #5614
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Thats not true. When this crash happened, there was only normal steel gurad rail, nothing special. You can see this even on street view.
https://maps.google.com/?ll=45.70603...30.84,,0,10.48
Right, there was a single guard rail, that is very dangerous.
On Street View pics, taken 2 months later, you can still clearily see the remanis of the accident (reconstructed asphalt and guard rails).
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:37 PM   #5615
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- What it is the medium day intensity in the A-1?

- I have another question: Is the SS309- E-55 an expressway or it is a normal road? I ask this because it is the shortest way between Venezia and Ravenna
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Old July 29th, 2013, 10:58 PM   #5616
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- I have another question: Is the SS309- E-55 an expressway or it is a normal road? I ask this because it is the shortest way between Venezia and Ravenna
Normal annoying road, with many dangerous roadside access, on which they build a couple overpasses over certain crossing with other roads.
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Old July 29th, 2013, 11:12 PM   #5617
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Normal annoying road, with many dangerous roadside access, on which they build a couple overpasses over certain crossing with other roads.
And one of the worst roads in Italy for accident rate.
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Old July 30th, 2013, 03:37 AM   #5618
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A3 Scilla - Gioia Tauro

A video of the modernized/new A3 between SCilla and Gioia Tauro



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Old July 30th, 2013, 01:52 PM   #5619
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A video of the modernized/new A3 between SCilla and Gioia Tauro
speed bumps on acceleations lane???
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Old July 30th, 2013, 06:15 PM   #5620
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Mine is just a hypothesis.
Because of the works in progress on the carriageway which provisionally keep the two lanes one per direction, maybe they tought it would have been safer to force cars to slow down by a bumper. The design of the accelleration lane allows to enter the highway at relatively high speed, but the traffic in the carriegeway is slower and with just one lane which avoid to go left to avoid a crash in case a crazy driver enters the motorway too fast
Maybe they thought signage wasn't enough and decided to add a bump
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