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Old July 30th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #5621
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One can assume that the stop sign at the end of the acceleration lane will disappear once the A3 itself is complete there, i.e. two lanes and proper room to merge. Now the stop sign is probably a good way to eliminate danger when people arrive from the acceleration lane at great speed with no room to merge. And there are two warning signs telling drivers to slow done, since a stop sign is upcoming. Not that the motorist on these two movies really bothered about any restriction sign though ...
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Old July 30th, 2013, 11:17 PM   #5622
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Yes, he was going so fast that time-lapse wasn't needed
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Old July 30th, 2013, 11:36 PM   #5623
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Tomorrow an 11-km-long stretch of superstrada SS 38 (Valtellina, province of Sondrio, Lombardy) is going to open. The stretch goes from the so-called "trivio Fuentes" (where current SS 38, SS 36 and SP 72 meet) to Cosio Valtellino.

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Old July 31st, 2013, 12:40 AM   #5624
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Yes, he was going so fast that time-lapse wasn't needed
As I see new motorway is now more or less in tunnels, so spectacular views from old motorway are now just nice memories. New motorway is better, faster and safer, but also much more boring.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 03:05 AM   #5625
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I wish they kept the old route as a scenic one, with just one lane for traffic and parking etc. However, that would be extremely cost to maintain.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 12:10 PM   #5626
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Yes, all very probably...
there is also the problem of undisciplined drivers
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Old July 31st, 2013, 01:10 PM   #5627
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It could be used as a replacement road for SS18, which is very winding and goes through towns.

However we are discussing it just theoretical, because all unused viaducts will be torn down. I remember looking at rendered views before and after reconstruction that were presented in the town of Scilla. Honestly those large concrete slope viaducts are really an eyesore when looking from the coast up into the hill.
Pictures from 2007, when construction was already in full swing:




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Old July 31st, 2013, 03:27 PM   #5628
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The old A3 should have been kept for local traffic, as replacement route in case of jam\accident and for vehicles carrying hazardous goods that are better outside tunnels.
However, from an environmental (landscape) point of view it's better having it demolished.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 03:31 PM   #5629
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Some viaducts demolitions on the A3:





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Old July 31st, 2013, 04:03 PM   #5630
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Impressive videos... lol at the background comments
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Old July 31st, 2013, 05:17 PM   #5631
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Current status of A3

Forumer jack74 compiled a table of the current status of the reconstruction project of A3, as from today.

Completed
Salerno Centro - Lagonegro Nord (123 km)
Campotenese - Morano (11 km)
Sibari - Cosenza (53 km)
Altilia - Lamezia Terme (35 km)
Sant'Onofrio - Mileto (22 km)
Rosarno - Scilla (45 km)

Works ongoing
Lagonegro Nord - Laino Borgo (18 km)
Lamezia Terme - Pizzo Calabro (6 km)
Mileto - Rosarno (6,5 km)
Scilla - Campo Calabro (9,5 km)

Works not yet started
Laino Borgo - Campotenese (20,5 km)
Morano - Sibari (22,5 km)
Cosenza - Altilia (25 km)
Pizzo Calabro - Sant'Onofrio (11 km)
Campo Calabro - Reggio Calabria (8 km)




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Ho aggiornato wikipedia in questa maniera :

Con le aperture al traffico di mercoledì 31 luglio 2013, sono stati completati 317 km (circa il 71,5 % del tracciato), 39 km sono in fase di ammodernamento o ricostruzione, mentre 87 km devono ancora essere cantierizzati. Entro il 2013 saranno completati circa 330 km.

I tratti già completati sono quelli tra gli svincoli di:

Salerno Centro - Lagonegro Nord (123 km) (fino a Sicignano a tre corsie)
Campotenese - Morano (11 km aperto al traffico il 22 luglio 2013)
Sibari - Cosenza (53 km)
Altilia - Lamezia Terme (35 km, dal Km 285 svincolo Altilia al Km 320 svincolo Lamezia Terme)
Sant'Onofrio - Mileto (22 km)
Rosarno - Scilla (45 km; dal Km 378 al Km 423)

I tratti dell'autostrada attualmente (31 luglio 2013) in fase di ammodernamento sono 39 km tra gli svincoli di:

Lagonegro Nord - Laino Borgo (18 km, in dettaglio dal Km 123,5 svincolo Lagonegro Nord al Km 126,5 viadotto San Francesco nel macrolotto 2 - dal Km 138,5 svincolo Lauria Nord al Km 153,5 svincolo Laino Borgo)
Lamezia Terme - Pizzo Calabro (6 km; dal Km 320 svincolo di Lamezia Terme incluso al Km 321 e dal Km 325 al Km 330)
Mileto - Rosarno (6,5 km dal Km 371,500 al Km 378)
Scilla - Campo Calabro (9,5 km ancora da completare)

I tratti da ammodernare sono relativi ad 87 Km, cioè tra gli svincoli di:

Laino Borgo - Campotenese (20,5 km; il contratto tra Anas ed il contraente generale è stato firmato il 17 aprile 2013. Progettazione esecutiva in corso, probabile avvio lavori fine 2014)
Morano - Sibari (22,5 - tratto da finanziare)
Cosenza - Altilia (25 km - progetto definitivo approvato sul tavolo CIPE da tre anni, manca finanziamento)
Pizzo Calabro - Sant'Onofrio (11 km - tratto da finanziare)
Campo Calabro - Reggio Calabria (8 km - tratto stralciato dal macrolotto 6 diventerà tangenziale di Reggio Calabria)

Il costo totale dei lavori di ammodernamento dell'autostrada A3 dal 1998 (inizio lavori) a novembre 2012 è stato pari a 7,443 miliardi di €; tuttavia, sono ancora necessari 3,1 miliardi per la realizzazione di 58 km di tratte in avanzata fase di progettazione.

Siete d'accordo con questo specchietto riepilogativo, io trovo 317 Km aperti al traffico e 39 Km da completare, con 87 da ammodernare.
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Old July 31st, 2013, 05:45 PM   #5632
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A nice video of Monza tunnel opening in April. SS36 Milano-Lecco

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Old July 31st, 2013, 06:44 PM   #5633
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Google Maps reports the updated route of the A3 but Street View still follow the route that was open in 2011. So you can notice the blue line in a place where there aren't roads anymore and the orange new motorway without Street View. I hope they will cover the new motorway without removing the coverage of the former motorway. https://maps.google.it/maps?q=Bagnar...abria&t=m&z=14
Here an emblematic image: the U/C inland viaduct (now open) seen from the old coastal motorway (now demolished).
I wonder if there are other places in the world where a motorway had been demolished to being rebuilt elsewhere. In most places renovating a motorway means just adding lanes.
The A1 between Bologna and Florence is a similar project but the old motorway won't be demolished.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 03:31 AM   #5634
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A3: new 5.4 km opened to traffic in Basilicata and Calabria

http://www.stradeanas.it/index.php?/...taglio/id/3744
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Old August 1st, 2013, 03:48 AM   #5635
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I wonder if there are other places in the world where a motorway had been demolished to being rebuilt elsewhere. In most places renovating a motorway means just adding lanes.
There is the famous sector of I-70 (Pennsylvania Turnpike) abandoned in favor of a new alignment in the 1970s http://goo.gl/maps/TCzju
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I hope they will cover the new motorway without removing the coverage of the former motorway.
If Street View does not introduce some sort of history-option in future, coverage of old alignment will be removed in future after Google car runs over new stretch.

It would be nice to save that route into a movie. It seems to be possible:
http://www.labnol.org/internet/stree...e-lapse/20504/
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If Street View does not introduce some sort of history-option in future, coverage of old alignment will be removed in future after Google car runs over new stretch.

It would be nice to save that route into a movie. It seems to be possible:
http://www.labnol.org/internet/stree...e-lapse/20504/
If the new road follows a different track it's possible to have a new street view without deleting older images.
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True, but there won't be old road in the future.
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True, but there won't be old road in the future.
Even today the old A3 near Bagnara Calabra isn't signed anymore on Google Maps but if you click on the little man the blue line appears over nothing.
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Old August 1st, 2013, 07:04 PM   #5640
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A14 Bologna - Taranto

2x3 lanes on 18 km of A14 Pesaro - Fano. There is now 195 km of continuous 2x3 mecca.

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