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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:48 AM   #5741
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I don't agree, wrong is wrong to me. This said, I'm not going to talk any more about it.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:39 AM   #5742
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Some of it was wrong (for example Mussolini's "works" in Rome), but much of it was inevitable. We shouldn't forget that the primary task of the city is for living and doing business not just for tourists to admire how people lived in the past.
But, regardeless the regime who built it, the Via della Conciliazione is far more pleasant than the Tangenziale est di Roma, the Sopraelevata di Genova, the A56 in Naples and the SS202 in Trieste.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #5743
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This is FIAT Mirafiori factory

I think Maserati new factory is now in former Bertone's one (not far from Mirafiori, anyway)

https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ll...08256&t=h&z=18
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Old August 9th, 2013, 12:00 PM   #5744
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This is FIAT Mirafiori factory

I think Maserati new factory is now in former Bertone's one (not far from Mirafiori, anyway)

https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ll...08256&t=h&z=18
Maserati Factory is at 200 corso Agnelli, and that's where Gmaps points

EDIT: Mmm, I think you're right...
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Old August 9th, 2013, 01:01 PM   #5745
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On january they opened a new factory in Grugliasco
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Old August 13th, 2013, 09:02 AM   #5746
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Some pictures about BreBeMi (A35) and TEEM works:

A35 toll barrier in Liscate:



Teem overpass of Milan-Venice railway in Melzo:


Teem-A35 junction:


New Cassanese road in Melzo:


Teem-new Cassanese junction in Melzo:
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Old August 13th, 2013, 12:30 PM   #5747
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According to Guardia di Finanza (Italian law enforcement agency responsible for dealing with financial crime and smuggling), 1 gas pump out of 6 in Italy is tampered with. Starting from 1st August, 1216 pumps all over Italy have been checked and 174 were found irregular: gasoline or diesel diluted with water, altered nozzles, and so on.

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Old August 14th, 2013, 10:15 PM   #5748
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Stupid example of road downgrading: after the opening of the Lacotisce - Rabuiese expressway, a part of the SP14 along the unhabitated coast near Muggia (not to be confused with the SS14\SR14, that doesn't touch Muggia) was being downgraded to an one-way road, so drivers in the opposite direction have to take a crazy detour passing through a built-up area.
https://maps.google.it/maps?saddr=St...p=1&sz=16&z=15

As you can see, there is enought room for two standard-width lanes:
https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ll...,85.89,,0,6.85

Another part of the SP14 is two-ways but... one lane is marked in yellow for a while, it seems a PT-only lane or a roadworks area. However there are no prohibition signs and cars drive normally in both directions.
https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ll...287.7,,0,16.63

Here, according to the signs you can go both straight or left but if you go straight you have to pass a solid white line and enter the yellow lane.
https://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ll...90.15,,0,12.88
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old August 14th, 2013, 10:40 PM   #5749
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Demolition of the old A4 bridge over the river Piave, last week:
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Yes, this event was quite spectacularized...
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old August 14th, 2013, 11:05 PM   #5750
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I already posted that some time ago:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=5676
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Old August 14th, 2013, 11:15 PM   #5751
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Just wathed the video. Imagine what scare if they didn't disrupt traffic in the nearby bridge.
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Old August 16th, 2013, 03:29 PM   #5752
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nice, I already drove on the new bridge.
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:21 PM   #5753
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A32 from Circonvallazione di Oulx to Avigliana Est

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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #5754
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:37 PM   #5758
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nice

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this is one of the longest tunnels with double tube in Europe (it used to be in top10, i think that it isn't anymore due to Austrian doublings in last few years)
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:39 PM   #5759
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By 2023 there will be 7 road tunnels with two tubes over 10 kilometers in length in Europe. There will even be a 2x3 lane tunnel with a length of 16.5 kilometers, almost the same as the Gotthard Tunnel.
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Old August 17th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #5760
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yep, there are many plans for long tunnels. those 5-10 km long will become more or less normal thing
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