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Old June 15th, 2007, 07:43 PM   #41
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Do you like Liguria's motorways?

Then look at this insane branch of Torino-Savona highway

[IMG]http://i18.************/4ta31mw.jpg[/IMG]

Get closer and closer to see how southbound makes a loop

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Old June 15th, 2007, 09:05 PM   #42
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OMG!
Been on A7 (Milano-Genova) once and I thought THAT was insane. But that just beats it...
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Old June 15th, 2007, 09:22 PM   #43
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no no no, Serravalle Highway (A7) southbound cannot be beaten... Probably it's the best road in Europe, just behind Nurburgring's Nordschleife
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Old June 15th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #44
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Imagine traveling from French riviera towards Genova on impressive A10 and you come after dozens and dozens of impressive tunnels and viaducts
(I don't know, but there should be around 60 tunnels in about 150 km on A10?) and then following intersection with A26 makes you stunned:
what goes where?


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Other perspective:

I was just amazed, when traveling on lower (left) viaduct, and you look deep down into valley
(it is quite deep, but its not easy to see in picture, you have to see it live) and then you look up and see high above you another viaduct (right).
Italian A10 is surely "a must" to see for everyone.
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Old June 16th, 2007, 04:25 PM   #45
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no no no, Serravalle Highway (A7) southbound cannot be beaten... Probably it's the best road in Europe, just behind Nurburgring's Nordschleife
Serravalle-Genova southbound is the oldest part of the motorway (1935) and for the standards of '30s that was a motorway (to be more accurate it was called 'camionabile': road for trucks) wich could support the traffic in both direction; I think the track was divided in just two lanes (one each directon)

In '60s they built Northbound track (with a more 'modern' conception: with a 'human' slope and less curves, and with many viaducts and tunnels) and divided the directions; to Genova remained on old track and to Serravalle on the new

I think it's time to dismiss southbound and to build a more modern one
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Old June 16th, 2007, 04:31 PM   #46
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The motorways are ******* impressive, i would like to travel there.
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Old June 16th, 2007, 06:15 PM   #47
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Serravalle-Genova southbound is the oldest part of the motorway (1935) and for the standards of '30s that was a motorway (to be more accurate it was called 'camionabile': road for trucks) wich could support the traffic in both direction; I think the track was divided in just two lanes (one each directon)

In '60s they built Northbound track (with a more 'modern' conception: with a 'human' slope and less curves, and with many viaducts and tunnels) and divided the directions; to Genova remained on old track and to Serravalle on the new

I think it's time to dismiss southbound and to build a more modern one
How then, that A10 to Ventimiglia is also wide separated on many parts? Was at first built only one half, and then second (tunnels are however threelaned)?
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Old June 16th, 2007, 06:57 PM   #48
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I think it's time to dismiss southbound and to build a more modern one

I agree, but the old one must be closed to traffic and kept as the Serravalle-Genova Circuit
We could call it "The Green Heaven", since there is a more famous "Green Hell"



A little north of the weird intersection between A26 and A10, the A26 goes dancing around mountains:



when you travel along this point, you can see your own highway on the other side of the valley, running on very high viaducts...




Now, we have seen the A26/A10 link, the Valpolcevera/Morandi viaduct includes parts of the A10/A7 link, now let's see the A7/A12 link:



You clearly see the northbound connection, in red.
Can't you see the southbound ones?
That's why...



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Old June 16th, 2007, 07:08 PM   #49
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I think this is the masterpiece of a group of crazy engineers.
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Old June 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM   #50
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How then, that A10 to Ventimiglia is also wide separated on many parts? Was at first built only one half, and then second (tunnels are however threelaned)?
Not sure of that, but it is very likely that the eastbound between Arenzano (just in the outskirts of Genova) and Genova was once an old 'camionabile'
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Old June 16th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #51
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Genius, ma non si chiama "Camionale"?
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Old June 16th, 2007, 07:54 PM   #52
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E' la stessa cosa


http://dizionari.corriere.it/diziona...amionale.shtml

http://dizionari.corriere.it/diziona...ionabile.shtml


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Old June 16th, 2007, 08:02 PM   #53
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you're welcome, Genius.

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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:34 AM   #54
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"Camionabile" is the Duce way to say "Camionale"
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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:57 AM   #55
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Autostrade

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Genova
[IMG]http://i17.************/6g2ftxv.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i18.************/4kvjc6o.jpg[/IMG]

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Roma-Napoli
[IMG]http://i14.************/4z274ht.jpg[/IMG]

A1 - Calatrava's bridge near Reggio Emilia
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Old June 17th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #56
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Umm, dude, no offence, but this is Shanghai.
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I think he meant this




This is where the old camionabile endend its route...
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Old June 17th, 2007, 12:10 PM   #58
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Ma davvero Ŕ Shanghai??...Che figura di m****
La foto l'ho presa su un sito fotografico delle autostrade italiane....mah
Ero convinto fosse Genova ...la prossima volta star˛ pi¨ attento
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Old June 17th, 2007, 03:35 PM   #59
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Umm, dude, no offence, but this is Shanghai.
Either way it looks awesome
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Imagine traveling from French riviera towards Genova on impressive A10 and you come after dozens and dozens of impressive tunnels and viaducts (I don't know, but there should be around 60 tunnels in about 150 km on A10?) and then following intersection with A26 makes you stunned:
Yeah, I travelled this way some years ago (from somewhere near Savona to Milano using A10, A26, A7) and it was more than nice. Unfortunately it was midnight when I reached this intersection.

Btw, are there any maps showing how many lanes Italian Autostradas have?
I'm looking for something like the maps on this site ("Karten" -> "Autobahnkarte" or "Strecken" and then chose the Autobahn you want, red is 2 lanes per direction, violett 3, and dark violett 4 lanes per direction).
Also, I'm interested in the AADT numbers of Italian Autostradas.
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